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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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The left hates this country. Right now they seem to be dead-set on making sure everyone knows it.
Honestly, it's the faux patriots who are vocal about wear flag pins. They are the haters.

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Old 09-24-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Im not at all surprised how Trump is responding to this, i mean think about it, would a tyrannical govt actually come out and admit itself to be tyrannical...of course not, that would be inviting a revolution, instead they try to disguise tyranny as something else, (usually relating to protecting national security or the health and safety of the public, etc)



Spot on:

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”


― James Waterman Wise

 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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SO kneeling to our National Anthem in a foreign country is now cool for libs?......take it international now? what a joke!
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...04261553950720

this is the president attempting to suppress dissent. Nothing less.
love it!!
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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...put the NFL in a position of choosing between the athletes and "some people" (~70%+) who hold opposing philosophical views.
70% are against freedom of speech?

70% are against the right of a private business to define rules for the conduct of their employees?
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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Colin Kaepernick Criticized for Wearing Police Pig Socks | Time.com

Whoś taking care of security at the football games Kaepernick is playing while wearing socks depicting police as pigs on his feet?
Who do those wives call when they get a beat down by their athletic hubbyś? Ghost Busters?

While I agree they have the right to stand up and protest I don't think the game is the place to do it. Their fans are made up of military and police officers. This just makes the football leagues look like they hate cops and think they're all pigs.

Why not compromise and gather off the field and stand up against cop brutality? I agree it should be focused on, many people do, but I don't think wearing pig police socks at a game is a decent way to stand up for anything.

The little kids who do it might just have a few kids on their team whoś parent is a cop or military. Another plateform would be better.

I think everyone agrees that the police can come up with better ways to limit police that get through who are prejudice, or criminals themselves.Out of a thousand cops, you are going to have a crappy one.

Out of a thousand employees at any job you'll get a bad apple. There is no way to stop it. So will these protests will just continue forever?

Donating some of their millions to help make police depts safer, and lower crime in neighborhoods with gangs would do so much more. Maybe they should put their money where their mouth is.

It's not surprising that Trump dislikes those who don't respect the national anthem. He's a big military fan. He's not the greatest speaker. lol But, why disrespect all cops and military just to get rid of the bad apples?

The ¨like¨ thinking all of us represent criminals of our kind is not accepted by anyone. You're black you kill each other. You're white, you use meth and are crazy. You're Mexican and crawled over the border. We wouldn't understand that so why would we understand all cops are pigs because some are bad?

Police risk their lives and get paid an embarrassing amount compared to those athletes.

Maybe if they got paid more we could keep more bad police out?

But, looking at those athletes that get paid thousands and thousands of dollars haven't seemed to keep out those bad apples that beat their wives or break the law in any other manner. So I guess we will always have some bad apples regardless of what we do.



The main issue with the bad cops is that the system and society protects them. Yes, you will always have the inferior people in any job. But in most jobs they get weeded out, and they get punished, especially for killing people without cause. Rarely so with cops. They might lose their jobs, but they basically have a license to kill without any punishment past a lost job.


That's not to say all police shootings are bad, some are justified. But some are not, and those guys walk free from them anyway.


That's more what the protests are about. Stick the unjustified ones in jail, and the black community doesn't riot and protest. And the other cops learn they cant kill without consequences.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...04261553950720

This is the president attempting to suppress dissent. Nothing less.
Yeah buddy! Let's get just a fraction of Trump nation to stop watching and see what happens.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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And God bless the right for people to choose not to watch the games as long as the anthem is being disrespected.
Indeed. But I don’t think it’ll make a huge difference
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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I wonder what proportion of the NFL players is African American..... What if they decided to step out and take a breather because they are sick of dealing with this.
Probably not going to happen - they would become Apostates & punishment would follow or at least shunning.
This is a road that is difficult to exit at this point. Looks like they all want to be Colin Kaepernick and they freely made that choice. It started as a 'protest' against Law Enforcement (lovely pig socks) and has now morphed into a Political statement against the President of the United States, AND those who voted for him.
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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The dividing lines here are pretty simple. You either love your country or you hate your country. Stand if it's the former, kneel if it's the latter.
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