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Old 07-31-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Turkish people are actually caucasians, as are the arabs.
They are Caucasoid, but not white, in the sense if you only recognize 3 races. Middle Easterners and North Africans are clinal between Caucasoid and Mongoloid/Asian and African. That said, I hope the Census Bureau doesn't create a MENA category as that would give them a big boost like it did Hispanics. There's no boost in being thrown in with the white/Caucasian classification.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Canada
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They sure are reluctant to accurately describe these men. Asian? Really?

"The first is described as Asian in his early 20s, approximately 6ft and of slim build. The second is also described as Asian, aged in his early 20s, 5ft 6in to 5ft 7in with a large build and tight beard."

CCTV issued over separate attacks on Birmingham teenager - BBC News
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Yes indeed. There's been such a focus on those Muslim's who are all "Islamic Terrorist" that infiltrated your borders which has diverted your knowledge of just what groups have been within your borders ( as in many other Countries).. It's called " Triad Organized Crime" and they have been around for many many decades!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(organized_crime)

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A triad is one of many branches of Chinese transnational organized crime syndicates based in China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and also in countries with significant Chinese populations, such as the United States, Canada, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand.

The starting point for understanding Chinese triads is to make a clear distinction between Hong Kong triad and mainland Chinese criminal organizations.[2] In ancient China, Triad is one of three major secret societies in mainland China.[3] It also created branches in Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Chinese communities overseas.[4] After the establishment of the People's Republic of China, all secret societies were completely destroyed in mainland China through a series of campaigns organized by Chairman Mao. Although post-Mao China has witnessed the resurgence of organized crime groups, they are not triad societies; the proper term for these criminal organizations is "mainland Chinese criminal organizations", which consist of two major types of organization: dark forces (loosely organized groups) and black societies (more mature criminal organizations). Two features that distinguish a black society from a dark force are (1) the ability of achieving illegal control over local markets, and (2) the obtainment of police protection.[5] In short, Hong Kong triad refers to traditional criminal organizations operating in or originating from Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and southeast Asian countries (areas), while organized crime groups in mainland China are better called "mainland Chinese criminal groups".
It's time that Islamophilic's get off their high horse that blame Muslim's for everything that's happening! Geesh!!! Try and educate yourselves.. The world is full of criminals and compared to what's been going on.. Muslim's of EXTREMIST Jihadism is just an addition to this criminal activity!. These Jihadist's got unleashed when IRAQ got broken back in the 2003 that left the VACUUM .. and it escalated ever since!

The differences in their reason's do vary from Religious directives by leadership, to anti-government activities, to gambling, prostitution, gun running to human trafficking to money laundering .. The list is endless!!

Asian's are very easy to identify really. Course my interactions with multi-racial entities in my profession enabled myself to recognize the ID points that differentiate.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I remember as a kid in the 1960's reading an old book and coming across the term 'quadroon.' I was not familiar w/ it and looked it up. Then I learned that there were several such terms of race categorization from the 18th-19th century America.


I was only maybe 10 or 11 at the time, but even then I found such terminology ludicrous. They sure were stupid back then, I thought.


Now about 50 years later, the phenomenon is back with a vengeance. I count 20 boxes that can be checked re race in the 2010 US census.
Census considers new approach to asking about race


And in my opinion, this has largely been a phenomenon of late 20th/early 21st century liberalism.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Of course they are. Anyone from the continent (or descended from people from the continent) is "Asian".

But I wasn't talking about technical definitions of the word, but was rather clarifying the word's daily usage by people in the US vs. Britain.

People in each country will think of different people when they hear that word used.
I agree, Americans usually call South Asians and Middleasterners by their nationality or when grouping several nationalities call Indians, Pakistani etc South Asians, and usually Iranians, Iraqi etcs middle easterners.
But the Census Bureau is classifying 5 races . An Iranian (even Afghan?) or Egyptian is classified white but a Pakistani and of course India is classified as Asian. It's not exactly accurate but probably works out fine politically.

What is not right though is for Hispanics/Latinos to receive ethnicity classification for the purposes of affirmative action.. They should count as white for the purposes of affirmative action too unless they classify as American Indian with tribal affiliates which few do.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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I always wondered why Obama got rid of the word "oriental"
I hope you're kidding.

The word has been out of favor since the 90's when "orientals" decided it was offensive to them and preferred the word Asian.

So now we refer to people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as "South Asian".
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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I hope you're kidding.

The word has been out of favor since the 90's when "orientals" decided it was offensive to them and preferred the word Asian.

So now we refer to people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as "South Asian".
Orient derived from Latin meaning East. Oriental use to mean East Asian and sometimes also Southeast Asian. Oriental being offensive seems like an example of oversensitivity and PC. Bill Clinton takes a lot of the blame for PC.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I hope you're kidding.

The word has been out of favor since the 90's when "orientals" decided it was offensive to them and preferred the word Asian.

So now we refer to people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as "South Asian".

"Oriental" was the normal term in the early to mid 60's, and at least to me never had a negative connotation. I think it was liberals, not 'Orientals' themselves, who decided that it was offensive. A few years ago in my state (WA) the democrat-controlled legislature decided to remove all references to "Oriental" from state laws. Ironically, the biggest objections came from practitioners of "Oriental medicine" who wanted to be able to keep using this nomenclature.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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I hope you're kidding.

The word has been out of favor since the 90's when "orientals" decided it was offensive to them and preferred the word Asian.

So now we refer to people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh as "South Asian".
So is it OK to call El Chapo as North American ?
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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My Brit friend calls someone who looks Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, etc. "Chinaman." Never heard him reference a woman so not sure what he'd say. I always preferred the term Oriental because it sounds exotic and special.
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Excuse you , but White people telling Asians what to be offended by doesn't work. As an Asian I'm offended by "Oriental" because I'm not an Object. Over sensitivity? Hilarious to hear a White person try to tell others what they shouldn't be offended by. Going through this thread your posts are highly suspect anyways. Your anti Diversity rants say a lot about who you are.
Do you object to being known as a member of Haplogroup O-M122?

Maybe that's the key. Identify suspects by probable Haplogroup then there's little confusion.
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