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Old 07-29-2017, 09:47 PM
 
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Haha... the bold is not what happened.

You got... "I'm with her" "It's my turn" - and THAT message wore her down to where she needed to take breaks.
You've got your opinion and i've got mine.

Mine isn't changing.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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It's interesting and ironic that California is so liberal yet they have never elected a female governor.
They are interested in preaching a good story not sitting in the audience listening to one.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:53 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Equal rights should mean that everyone has a chance to try doing anything they want to do. It should not mean that the bar is changed so that someone who is not qualified gets the job. Unfortunately in so many things such as algebra in community colleges in California, what we are seeing is the bar being lowered and that is making our country weak. Take your equality and run with it but do not demand that a woman win as president unless she is the most qualified and would be best for the job. Calling half the people in America deplorable is not the way our president should think.

Any woman who runs on the idea that they should be elected because they would be the first woman president is a weak person who should never be elected. I think we all realize the mistake that was made when we elected an unqualified person who ran on being the first black president. We are still trying to recover and stop the damage he caused.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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They are interested in preaching not sitting in the audience listening.
So you're gonna bomb California for not electing a female governor yet just because they're waiting for a properly qualified gubernatorial candidate? You don't believe that the best person should be elected all of a sudden when it comes to California? Californians haven't gone around telling people in other states who they should elect as governor! They aren't "preaching" to you, you're just hearing things because of paranoia.

LOL...you guys are all ass backwards.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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You've got your opinion and i've got mine.

Mine isn't changing.
I know... that's fine.

Sometimes you throw statements out there and it's like... wha ???

Pretending to be a Republican....

I will say that your liberal platform probably would have worked if she had stayed with it.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:56 PM
 
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Equal rights should mean that everyone has a chance to try doing anything they want to do. It should not mean that the bar is changed so that someone who is not qualified gets the job. Unfortunately in so many things such as algebra in community colleges in California, what we are seeing is the bar being lowered and that is making our country weak. Take your equality and run with it but do not demand that a woman win as president unless she is the most qualified and would be best for the job. Calling half the people in America deplorable is not the way our president should think.
To say that every male that has been elected is better than any female is laughable. It is what it is. This country is still very very male-centric even though there are more women than men in the population. It's self-imposed. Women do not support other women in the US. They don't even like other women that much.
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Old 07-29-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Equal rights should mean that everyone has a chance to try doing anything they want to do. It should not mean that the bar is changed so that someone who is not qualified gets the job. Unfortunately in so many things such as algebra in community colleges in California, what we are seeing is the bar being lowered and that is making our country weak. Take your equality and run with it but do not demand that a woman win as president unless she is the most qualified and would be best for the job. Calling half the people in America deplorable is not the way our president should think.
There is no such thing as equality, nor should there be.

When Californians find a qualified female candidate, they'll elect her as governor. Simple as that.

As to the deplorables comment, i can't believe you guys are still stewing over that. She was being generous if anything. Probably a lot MORE than half the country are deplorables. LOL
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:01 PM
 
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There is no such thing as equality, nor should there be.

When Californians find a qualified female candidate, they'll elect her as governor. Simple as that.

As to the deplorables comment, i can't believe you guys are still stewing over that. She was being generous if anything. Probably a lot MORE than half the country are deplorables. LOL
I saw her deplorables speech and had no issue with it at all. Maybe it hit close to home for some. But the way she was treated, the things Trump said and got away with, make it clear a woman president won't happen until the baby boomers have all passed, so at least a generation.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:06 PM
 
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If so it will only be because we were the last western nation to put up a worthy female candidate. It will speak well of us if we only elect a woman when it is the right woman, and will speak poorly of us if we elect a woman just so we can say we elected a woman.
We had the latter chance in 2016 and passed it up.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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It's interesting and ironic that California is so liberal yet they have never elected a female governor.
But they have elected three consecutive women Senators and the first female Representative to become Speaker of the House. So you can't say the problem is sexism.

FWIW- I also rejected the idea that being a woman sunk Hillary in Wisconsin or Michigan when that topic was thrown around. WI has a lesbian US Senator and Michigan has elected both a woman Senator and a woman Governor.

I think a lot of Democrats are in the same denial Republicans were 4 years ago- they were so certain the opponent was rotten that they cannot see how their candidate lost. In both election the loser was the better candidate by many metrics but neither was relateable and both had a tendency to tie themselves in knots trying to explain past decisions.

One thing DesertDetriot pointed out is what killed HRC's chances in the end. She was not seen as progressive. And young voters, and young black voters in particular, went third party in higher numbers than they ever had. When the Dems could have eeked out the final three EC states they needed with bigger vote totals in Wayne County (Michigan), Dane County (Wisconsin), and Philly, running a candidate who fails to excite two important parts of your base is just not wise.
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