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Nope. Their children were not born enslaved. They were not bought and sold in vast slave markets where they were forced to strip and parade for their potential masters.
Many indentured servants never had the opportunity to have children simply because they were so worthless to their owners. They died from backbreaking work, or simply committed suicide. They sure were bought and sold in markets for their labor. And they had owners. The so-called indentured in the Caribbean from Ireland were living pure hellish lives. You are clearly glorifying the lives of indentured servants from Ireland, especially all the kidnapped ones, making it seem like some type of regular work contract. They were frequently commanded to work in conditions not fit for an African who had real value to their owners. And lets not forget the genocidal policies committed by the English against the Irish on the island either. The Irish language was almost wiped out as a result and to this day, the language is struggling to survive. The Irish were seen as subhuman Catholic scum for centuries by the English overlords. Thats not something that just popped up in the 1800s in America.
Many indentured servants never had the opportunity to have children simply because they were so worthless to their owners. They died from backbreaking work, or simply committed suicide. They sure were bought and sold in markets for their labor. And they had owners. The so-called indentured in the Caribbean from Ireland were living pure hellish lives. You are clearly glorifying the lives of indentured servants from Ireland, especially all the kidnapped ones, making it seem like some type of regular work contract. They were frequently commanded to work in conditions not fit for an African who had real value to their owners. And lets not forget the genocidal policies committed by the English against the Irish on the island either. The Irish language was almost wiped out as a result and to this day, the language is struggling to survive. The Irish were seen as subhuman Catholic scum for centuries by the English overlords. Thats not something that just popped up in the 1800s in America.
OK..you've got your narrative down---it's not the whole story..and it's not historically supportable as you present it, but who really cares? If you wish to cherry pick your data--is not my issue. Everything you say is true..but it was not the norm. The stories of kidnapping were exaggerated, IMO. You seem fixated on the Caribbean---what about North America, Australia?
The 2nd half of your statement has merit..but so? The English brutality towards the Irish is well known--how is it on topic?
I'll ask one more time--why does this issue matter/ Why is this particular subject brought up on CD..time and time again?
"Indenture" indicates some kind of agreement between servant and master that isn't present in a slave master situation. The agreement was usually for a set amount of time, and when the indenture was over, the servant was free to go on his way. Not so a slave.
"Indenture" indicates some kind of agreement between servant and master that isn't present in a slave master situation. The agreement was usually for a set amount of time, and when the indenture was over, the servant was free to go on his way. Not so a slave.
Except, many had to pay back the loan it took to come over and they were paid so little that it was almost impossible to do that.
My family worked in the mills six days a week in the North of England. Child labor and all, terrible working conditions. Got one day off per year: Christmas.
Reparations please.
And I have ancestors who were indentured servants. That means they got free transportation to this land in and returned the favor by working for the person who paid their way. Reparations please!
Some of the worst working conditions in existence were heaped upon working class English people during the Industrial Revolution. My English gt grandfather's invention was stolen by his factory owner employer because he was too poor to afford the patent.
90% of America's history is conveniently forgotten by the progressives. Why do you think they have taken over the education system? It certainly isn't to teach the children that two plus two is five--because they CAN'T change that two plus two is four (although you can bet the would if they could).
What the progressives want is a self-loathing populace, which is easier to manipulate. They are counting on the "battered housewife syndrome" wherein the wife is beaten to within an inch of her life so often that she finally concludes it is her fault and that she deserves it.
Except, many had to pay back the loan it took to come over and they were paid so little that it was almost impossible to do that.
I don't know of any particular situations.
A significant portion of the population of the colonies consisted of an indentured population. So much so that...
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Most of the colonies regulated the terms of indentured service, but the treatment of individual servants differed widely. Some were mistreated; others lived as members of a family. It was commonly required that they be provided with clothing, a gun, and a small tract of land upon which to establish themselves after their service ended. These requirements applied especially to those who were unwilling servants. There was no permanent stigma attached to indentured servitude, and the families of such persons merged readily with the total population. Children born to parents serving their indenture were free. Terms of an indenture were enforceable in the courts, and runaway servants could be compelled to return to their masters and complete their service, with additional periods added for the time they had been absent.
... from Encyclopedia .com
I can see how some mistake indentured servitude with slavery, especially with the last sentence above dealing with runaways; but one was a breech of contract situation and the other was, well, I don't know what the other was, legally.
90% of America's history is conveniently forgotten by the progressives. Why do you think they have taken over the education system? It certainly isn't to teach the children that two plus two is five--because they CAN'T change that two plus two is four (although you can bet the would if they could).
What the progressives want is a self-loathing populace, which is easier to manipulate. They are counting on the "battered housewife" syndrome wherein the wife is beaten to within an inch of her life so often that she finally concludes it is her fault and that she deserves it.
History is written by the winners. I recently took a college American History course. It amazed me how much has been changed in the books since I was in high school in the 1960s. It is all sanitized history. Anything that showed the U.S. in a bad light, like the invasion of Hawaii or The massacre at Wounded Knee, has been eliminated.
A significant portion of the population of the colonies consisted of an indentured population. So much so that...
... from Encyclopedia .com
I can see how some mistake indentured servitude with slavery, especially with the last sentence above; but one was a breech of contract situation and the other was, well, I don't know what the other was, legally.
But indentured servants were not citizens, so they could NOT own land in some of the colonies.
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