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I am used to it, and have adjusted. Funny how these liberal areas do have millions of people commuting in every workday.
Yeah, I remember well coming down the hill out of San Clamente heading north on I-5 and suddenly hitting the mass of traffic moving at a snails pace. It was wonderful (sarcasm).
Even in San Diego (where we lived until 1993) the congestion was becoming unbearable. Who wants to spend hours on the road just getting to and from work? For what? So happy we left! I don't miss it at all. The only thing I do miss is our beautiful house that we left behind. But I love living in the country now ...no noise, no traffic, lots of green trees and grass, birds singing, a large garden and SPACE! I don't look out the window into my neighbors bedroom (which was six feet away). We have 11 acres here and our property taxes are a mere fraction of what we were paying in San Diego. Plus, gasoline right now is only $2.16/gal.
Why isn't everyone else required to pay "their fair share?"
Because they don't have the same money. Why would I tax a poor person the same as a rich person? Makes zero sense.
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This is only for people earning over $250K (which really isn't all that much for the area). Who determines what their "fair share is?"
Putting aside the fact that 250k is a nice household income, even in Seattle, that's the role of govt. obviously. Who else should determine income cutoffs? Charlie Sheen? Kid Rock?
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Why is someone a "jerk" if they object to taxes?
Because we live in a civilized society, and in a civilized society people have to pay taxes. These people made their money only because they live in a civilized society, and there are responsibilities that come with wealth.
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Why should anybody be willing to fork over their money to liberals who want to spend it on their pet 'causes,' which keep growing in number and cost?
Because they care about their families and community? Seattle is a progressive town. If you're wealthy and hate the govt. and taxes and think everyone is "liberal" you probably aren't living in Seattle anyways.
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How do you know what may or may not be a burden on someone?
I don't understand this question. You're arguing that someone in the top 1% of the richest country on the planet can't afford an additional 1% income tax? They're like in the top .001% of the planet.
Are you arguing against all taxes and fees? Just run things like Mad Max?
If they REALLY can't afford a few grand, then they are horrible money managers and will be poor in due time, so problem solved. They won't have to pay the tax anyways once they leave the 1%.
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Typical liberal logic: You should pay more for the privilege of living in such a place.
Who knew that Econ 101: supply and demand was "liberal logic"? I guess people in Manhattan and Beverly Hills and the Hamptons should pay the same as people in Papua New Guinea, Haiti, or Outer Mongolia just because you say so.
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Is it for you to decide what won't affect their 'lifestyle?'
Yes. This is the govt. role. If you don't like it, you can move somewhere like Somalia, which has no central govt. and no taxing authority. Problem solved.
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I know of a lot of wealthy people who left New York because of the high taxes, so not everyone is as "happy to pay more" as you claim.
NYC had even higher income taxes in the past, so this makes so sense. They left NYC because their taxes were dropping? Also, NYC has never had more rich than right now, so we know this isn't true.
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Now that would depend on how the city manages it's money, would it not? There are cities going bankrupt because of poor money management.
Yes, but has nothing to do with anything. Cities can be good or poor managers regardless of income tax.
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Your arguments are flawed, but typical of Leftists who love to spend other peoples money.
The idea that I'm a "leftist" because I think wealthy people should pay some minimal income tax, is hilarious at face value. Apparently anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun would be "leftist" in your book.
Your source the "American Thinker" is financed by large corporations that desire corporate deregulation and CEO tax cuts. But real world sources paint a different picture of Seattle.
American Thinker only published the story for the writer. It is not "the source." I have a writer friend who lives in New York. Her articles are also published by American Thinker as well as other places.
I was in Seattle a few months ago. A two topping pizza was $46. Enjoy!
Yeah, sure, we believe you. A two-topping pizza is $46...
I'm betting 100% of the people commenting in this thread about the supposed injustice of a city income tax live in Palookavilles where there is no danger of such a tax. Additionally, I bet these people barely even set foot in these major cities.
So problem solved. People who prefer the glories of rural Alabama or wherever, are happy, and those living in NYC, Seattle and the like are happy.
Because they're getting the exact same (if not more, e.g. means-tested public assistance wealth transfers) access to government services/benefits.
You don't tax someone based on what they're getting out of it. That has nothing to do with taxation.
You would kill people when they retire, and become tax burdens? You would kill the handicapped? You expect a bum on the streets to give back the same as Bill Gates?
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