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Old 08-11-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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If there had ever been an example of a pure socialist society, we could have this argument. Unfortunately, a pure socialist country has NEVER existed.


There have been plenty of pure capitalist societies that failed so clearly, by the OPs logic, capitalism is an abject failure!!!!!
Most socialist countries such as USSR, China, NK, would execute you for saying they weren't pure socialist.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Most socialist countries such as USSR, China, NK, would execute you for saying they weren't pure socialist.
That's because they were not really socialist, and their leaders knew this. It was sold to the people as socialism but they were anything but. All these societies had unequal balances of resources, the antithesis of socialism.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I reside in Brazil where the major left-wing party has publicly demonstrated support to Maduro. How come people still think that communism and socialism works?
Communism and socialism are actually different 'things'.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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Most socialist countries such as USSR, China, NK, would execute you for saying they weren't pure socialist.
"Most"...."such as" so along with those named; there's others that would execute you for claiming their form of government is something other than "pure socialist"?

This nonsense while you can be executed in the U.S. for not keeping your hands on the steering wheel.

There is a safe place waiting for you, but you'll have no internet access......whatyagonna do?
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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That's because they were not really socialist, and their leaders knew this. It was sold to the people as socialism but they were anything but. All these societies had unequal balances of resources, the antithesis of socialism.
Incorrect. That's because exactly they are socialist and that's how socialism works! Socialism does NOT tolerate any opposing view.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Communism and socialism are actually different 'things'.
Yes, very significant difference.

One is a rat and the other is a rat in a fancier outfit.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Incorrect. That's because exactly they are socialist and that's how socialism works! Socialism does NOT tolerate any opposing view.
That would be wrong. If you don't like socialism, that is ok, but you should know something before you decide to not like it, i.e. not like it for the right reasons. Socialism doesn't say anything about freedom of speech etc. Fighting opposition is not limited to left governments. It is simply a trait of dictatorial, oppressive regimes, both on the right and the left. Just observe how Trump is fighting the media and anyone else criticizing him...
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The Germans used to settle their disputes with a bullet in the head like the Chi-Coms do now.....
Every relevant nation has done so.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...94f_story.html

A heartbreaking tragedy from a GOVERNMENT run hospital, just one proof socialism and its style of healthcare system would not work.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...94f_story.html

A heartbreaking tragedy from a GOVERNMENT run hospital, just one proof socialism and its style of healthcare system would not work.
I can't access the page, only read part of the headline.
I am not in India, but most hospitals in Europe are state-run and they work just fine...
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