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Old 08-05-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was asking if you were suggesting the government get out of the health insurance business & maybe do a little regulating similar to how some folks suggest the same for Wall Street ~ that government get out of Wall Street & the FIRE sector & maybe do a little regulating ...?

Not sure what you mean by "Someone will have to do it at some point, the costs are ridiculous"? Agree the costs in US are ridiculous but haven't seen any pragmatic plausible plans on how to reduce costs? I've posted links before which address the underlying reasons but no one here seemed interested. Will re-post but cannot right now ~ on my phone & away from home.

& Wall Street is not likely to be willing to do anything to reduce costs, after all, they're not in the business of serving society or acting in the community or Country's best interest. If anything, their expectation is vice versa ~ US exists to serve their best interest.

The 'Wall Street connection' to health care is a failure to competently address health care legislation & tax policy could influence & possibly deflate stock prices & in turn, influence corporate investment ... & so on.
, Healthcare costs are too high, they will need to be regulated at some point if we want the cost of insurance to come down, I don't know how it will be done I can't tell you what the government would do. how could I? I imagine they will manage it poorly.

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Old 08-05-2017, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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" In an ideal republican world, what would be perfect healthcare system? "

A Soylent Green factory that turns a profit and pays no taxes.
I guess it would be considered a public service and thereby, non taxable.
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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#1 In accordance with Trump's own policy of getting overseas workers, the medical field would be flooded with Filipino, Mexican, Indian, and Pakistani workers to do everything from mop the floor, build hospitals, to open heart surgery.

#2 End to all government research into new medicines. Eliminate the NIH and all funding at the University level.

#3 Eliminate all taxes on big pharmacy so they can pretend to invest in new medication.

#4 Eliminate all subsidy for condoms, birth control, assistance for abortion etc.

#5 Eliminate any spending associated with "female troubles" but expand availability of Viagra.

#6 Eliminate all inner city hospitals that primarily serve liberals so they die off faster.

#7 Get liberals and minorities hooked on Fentanyl and hope the GOP base doesn't .
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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Do you have insurance? If you do, someone else is helping you pay for your "stuff."
I don't health insurance.

Nice try. I pay as I go.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Little Rock, AR
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Freedom, open market, buying groups, no insurance bailout money, less government intrusion.
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Pretty simple question. Whats your vision on how healthcare should be done or look like? Imagine you start from scratch with no lefties or liberal politicians about to obstruct changes? So a purely republican/conservative solution.

What kind of free market system would you want to deal with pre-exisiting conditions, hospital costs, allowing kids to stay on their parents' insurance, etc.

Stole this from another forum, but its filled with liberals(I'm one myself) so I not sure if an honest answer was really given.
In a perfect world, everyone pays a fair price for their healthcare.
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Out West
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Originally Posted by A.J240 View Post
Pretty simple question. Whats your vision on how healthcare should be done or look like? Imagine you start from scratch with no lefties or liberal politicians about to obstruct changes? So a purely republican/conservative solution.

What kind of free market system would you want to deal with pre-exisiting conditions, hospital costs, allowing kids to stay on their parents' insurance, etc.

Stole this from another forum, but its filled with liberals(I'm one myself) so I not sure if an honest answer was really given.
Free market.

And from what you wrote, I don't think you understand "free market".
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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Imho, there's nothing wrong with the questions posed by the OP. Similar to a 'thought experiment' & expanding one's thoughts & then carrying out the ideas to their logical, rational, pragmatic & plausible conclusions. What's the problem with that? Critical & creative thinking strategies. What's wrong with that?
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I've never seen a conservative proposal that would work. Oh they all look good on paper; selling across state lines, get government out, etc, etc but would do little to nothing in the real world.
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Old 08-06-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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More of a libertarian here, but my answer would be to get government out of health care. Go back to a system that allows us to negotiate with our doctors on our own, remove the massive overhead that is created by forcing doctor's offices to employ people for the sole purpose of authorizing insurance claims and billing insurance companies.
You'll have to carry a negotiation card on you, so when you are brought to the hospital unconscious, the doctors will know how much you are willing to pay, and will be in position to either treat you, or turn down your offer.
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