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Old 08-07-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Polygamists don't corner the market for child and spousal abuse.... Plenty of single husband and wife households with that type of abuse.
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm a Bisexual guy, so I have no right telling a polygamist how to live.
You have no right to tell another how to live regardless of how you live anyway.

As long as respect for private property rights and the non-aggression principle are upheld.
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You have no right to tell another how to live regardless of how you live anyway.

As long as respect for private property rights and the non-aggression principle are upheld.
Thanks, you said it better than me.
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Thanks, you said it better than me.
I'm sure you can sympathize with those who deviate from statistical norms being bisexual yourself so I know what you meant.

Truth is, as a straight guy even I have problems. Imagine that? I know I could spend the rest of my life trying to deal with my own crap. I don't even think about the drama outside my own life. Just a good luck and be on your way to the world. Live and let live.

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Old 08-07-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Japan
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I would think the biggest problem with polygamy from the male point of view would be exhaustion.
No, the biggest problem from the male point of view is that, unless you are relatively rich and powerful, you will never have a family of your own in a polygamous society. This situation has always been the norm in primitive areas, and developed societies have been moving back toward it since the sexual revolution. Women, instead of having to choose the best available man and make a commitment to live monogamously and raise a family with him, are now free to spend their prime child-bearing years in and out of short-term childless relationships with various alpha males. Most other men have no prospects and little incentive to work hard. Meanwhile, fewer babies are born into stable two-parent families.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:17 AM
 
Location: *
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You're assuming a one-man situation. It can be the other way, you know - one-woman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry

Also, although it's non-traditional, you could also be talking about a group of gay men or gay woman.

To reiterate - I see nothing fundamentally wrong with any of these arrangements. It's the legal protections afforded for married people that concern me.

Which leads to Time Enough for Love, published in 1973, a novel by Robert Heinlein, about a distant future where people live to be hundreds of years old, so space travel is possible, and contractually bind themselves into polyamorous households. Marriage's main purpose is no longer sex and reproduction (although that is certainly included), but about forming a lifelong family base from which to adventure. Which is where I think marriage is going anyway.

Time Enough for Love is tediously looooong, so I recommend Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_for_Love - unless you're a Heinlein fan, but in that case, you've probably already read it.
Re: bold: basically this is my perspective as well.

(I've read many of Mr Heinlein's novels, Stranger in a Strange Land remains my favorite, polyamorous households is a 'theme' in many of his stories sometimes using the same characters or personalities in different novels. Another one of his, Friday is a close 2nd, a polyamorous household is there as well along with the main protagonist (Friday) being an AP ('artificial person' or 'genetically engineered human'). She is forced to conceal her abilities in order to be accepted by her polyamorous family ...)

Apologies for the diversion.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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I would think the biggest problem with polygamy from the male point of view would be exhaustion.
From what?
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: My House
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Between consenting adults? I'm totally fine with polygamy if that's what they want to do.
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