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Old 08-07-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Here's how this works according to Trump ~

Under Obama - those numbers were FAKE.

Under Trump - those numbers are HONEST NUMBERS.
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You can want a job and be actively looking for a job, thus counted in the U3 rate, but not be employable. I wouldn't say that everyone currently looking for a job who can't find one is unemployable, but its likely that a high percentage of them have some issue that is preventing them from obtaining a job.


You could also be an ideal candidate that can't pay your bills with the low-ball wages they are offering.


The 0.1% will squeal like pigs about increasing pay, and until they exhaust every possibility to means by which to **** working Americans in the ***.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Transportation Act...305 billion for infrastructure

Every Student Succeeds.... Gives power back to state and local governments, reversing the trend with No Child Left Behind.

USA Freedom Act... Changes the way telephone data is held - from government to phone companies.

Healthcare Medicare... Changed the way doctors are paid and emphasized quality of care.

Micro-bead Free Waters Act...... Bans the introduction of microbeads, which have been used in cleaning, into the water system.

Human Trafficking Act... Provided funds to states for use in combating human trafficking.

There are more, of course... That's just for 2015. Actually, if you are reading this sentence, I would be surprised.
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Which ones????...answer.....all of them! In case libs don't know, the President can only sign bills that have passed the Congress first, he can't make up bills and sign them (okay, he can write Executive Orders to fill in the gaps not covered by the laws passed by Congress but that's it). Thank you Obama for signing your name to all of the bills and budgets the Republican Congresses have passed since they were elected to run Congress in 2010!! Thank you Boehner!
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:27 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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An excellent question! Allow me to explain it to you according to official conservative philosophy:

If the President is a Democrat, then the unemployment rate is 100% fake and real rate is higher by a factor or 10.

If the President is a Republican, then of course the unemployment rate is real and a source of credit - if it's low.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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I'm not a hypocrite. I've been saying for years when Obama was President and before that the real unemployment rate was depression level 25% and I'm not changing my tune now. President Trump may have brought it down a couple points but it's still around 20%. That's not his or anyone else's fault because that's how the PTB want it.

If the unemployment rate was truly under 5% the upward pressure on wages would make them grow but that's not what's happening because there is still a huge surplus of labor for the lower 80%-85% of jobs.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You can want a job and be actively looking for a job, thus counted in the U3 rate, but not be employable. I wouldn't say that everyone currently looking for a job who can't find one is unemployable, but its likely that a high percentage of them have some issue that is preventing them from obtaining a job.

That wasn't exactly what I was replying to. That point was saying that the unemployment rate counts those who "don't want a job," rather than the unemployable.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Here's how this works according to Trump ~

Under Obama - those numbers were FAKE.

Under Trump - those numbers are HONEST NUMBERS.

I think this is a legitimate question. However, we should be measuring unemployment CONSISTANTLY. I think the numbers were cooked under the Obama Admin. I also think the inflation numbers were misrepresented. What we should focus on is not only the Unemployment Rate, but the more meaningful, Labor Participation Rate which is up SLIGHLTY so far under Trump.


https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000





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Old 08-08-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I'm not a hypocrite. I've been saying for years when Obama was President and before that the real unemployment rate was depression level 25% and I'm not changing my tune now. President Trump may have brought it down a couple points but it's still around 20%. That's not his or anyone else's fault because that's how the PTB want it.

If the unemployment rate was truly under 5% the upward pressure on wages would make them grow but that's not what's happening because there is still a huge surplus of labor for the lower 80%-85% of jobs.
Call me a skeptic but how do you find the unemployment rate is really double what is reported by the DOL?
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:33 AM
 
Location: CT
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I think this is a legitimate question. However, we should be measuring unemployment CONSISTANTLY. I think the numbers were cooked under the Obama Admin. I also think the inflation numbers were misrepresented. What we should focus on is not only the Unemployment Rate, but the more meaningful, Labor Participation Rate which is up SLIGHLTY so far under Trump.


https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000





Well then, why is Trump taking credit? Did he change how the data is represented? If it's just Obama trickery, why doesn't he fix it?
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Call me a skeptic but how do you find the unemployment rate is really double what is reported by the DOL?


The unemployment rate does not count those that have dropped out of the workplace, and have stopped looking for work. That is why I also look at the Labor Participation Rate.
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