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Old 08-08-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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It should be, but since we no longer have freedom of association, the workplace anti-discrimination laws need to be enforced to protect men as well as women. This firing constitutes illegal sex discrimination.
How so?

For contributing to a hostile work environment?

Protecting his right to make others uncomfortable?

C'mon now.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:48 AM
 
Location: My House
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I don't disagree that Google could fire him.

I disagreed you calling his memo "inappropriate" without any supporting argument.
He took women and ascribed characteristics to all of them like they're a homogeneous group.

Some of these characteristics were unflattering and insulting. Nobody wants to work with someone who'd think stuff like that, much less put it in a memo.

I'm surprised you cannot see how wrong that was to do.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:49 AM
Status: "Illegal Mob = Challenging Tradition? REALLY??" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If GoDaddy can turn the corner on sexism, who can’t?

Men Have Always Used Science to Explain Why They're Better Than Women
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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I heard about this.

It's a shame that the very people who call themselves "progressive" are instead self righteous and operate with the tactics of worst of society.
+1, they became what they hate.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:51 AM
 
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"It's more important for me to be able to express my hatred of women and minorities than it is for women and minorities to have a place here"
Everyone's a minority in California. And of course all the hatred in this story is directed at men.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Austin
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He took women and ascribed characteristics to all of them like they're a homogeneous group.

Some of these characteristics were unflattering and insulting. Nobody wants to work with someone who'd think stuff like that, much less put it in a memo.

I'm surprised you cannot see how wrong that was to do.
No. He used "average". Average, a mathematical and scientific term with a definite meaning, does not apply to all individuals within a group.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:54 AM
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Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Did you guys read the memo? Duh he was fired and duh no other company wants to touch this guy. What a moron. Any company anywhere would have fired this guy and justifiable so. Koch Industries would have done the exact same thing.
Am I wrong about what the topic of this thread is? The article linked in the OP gave mention of this memo but I thought it was more about the ideological blacklisting some google managers were boasting about on internal company bulletin boards.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you read that thing, he starts off sounding somewhat reasonable, but by the end his RWNJ whackiness is showing. Don't blame Google for deleting him, this is really disruptive.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: My House
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No. He used "average". Average, a mathematical and scientific term with a definite meaning, does not apply to individuals within a group.
You get that it's rude to do this, right?

What woman at Google would ever feel like she'd get a fair chance at a job or a promotion with a man like him working there?

Nope. If this was what he thought, he should've kept it away from work.

His "manifesto" was inappropriate.

I'd say the same if someone, at work, wrote one about the "average" man and it was based on no real, scientific evidence and insulting to men.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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Exactly. While I agree Google had a legal right to fire him, I would suggest that people read the actual document (or at least what is available, I've yet to find the whole thing) before making a judgement on whether this is hate speech.
LOL. Hate speech? Where did that come from?

The essay is a pathetically timid disagreement with certain flagrantly illegal company policies. It could not be any further from "hate speech".
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