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Old 08-08-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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this post is too funny-- I raised three boys to be men- not violent- and they all have their different characters- mostly easy going - but will kick aXX when they have to-- just like MA-- do not misinterpret - what a man is---nor strength of a female.
I never said men are naturally violent thugs who kill for no reason. Men are naturally able and willing to respond to threats to defend themselves and their social group.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Let me see if I understand you...a person has to be a Liberal to revere the sanctity of life?
Oh stop. "Revere the sanctity of life" that sounds so lofty. Too bad it's stupid.

Do other animals revere the sanctity of life? Not when they are hungry. And NEITHER DO WE. Unless you are a vegan -- but even then you kill those poor defenseless plants.

Life on earth REQUIRES killing.

On the other hand, every society on earth, human or animal, generally prohibits killing members of your own social group. With some exceptions of course.

All animals have violent instincts, for self-protection. Having violent instincts can mean ENJOYING violence.

If you have not noticed, little boys want to play with toy guns. You will deny it, of course, and say YOUR little boys play with Barbie dolls instead.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Too many pajama boys but they are balanced by more aggressive women. Talking about the younger generation.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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I would agree the feminization of men is the Left's fault, but I don't think it is on purpose. What benefit does that give to the Left, obviously we are talking about the leaders of the Left not your average skinny but huge belly mid level middle aged bald accountant in your major American city. It is just a mixture of technology, chemicals, life style etc. I don't think anyone in power really wants men to turn into females, it wouldn't do much good or anyone. I don't think someone like Bill Gates would go out of his way to stop feminization, but I don't think it is a goal.

Same thing happened to the Roman Empire. Most historians agree, it was just a factor of advancement. Men started to dress like woman. Never went outside the city limit except to their designated "nature" spots. Worked more with paper than tools. Never served in the military. Ate processed foods more than vegetables and meat. Watched men acting like wild animals from the Arena but never did anything remotely dangerous. I am talking about the Romans but obviously you can see where I am going with this.

Don't worry, the Roman empire took hundreds of declining and painful years before collapse.
Yes it's true, living under a powerful empire removes the need for self-defense. America is the MOST POWERFUL military nation ever on this earth. It protects us. And it also prevents us from defending ourselves.

You don't see men fighting duels anymore. The police would show up and prevent it.

The second amendment is just a joke now -- do you really think you can defend yourself against the US military with a rifle?
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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this post is too funny-- I raised three boys to be men- not violent- and they all have their different characters- mostly easy going - but will kick aXX when they have to-- just like MA-- do not misinterpret - what a man is---nor strength of a female.
I already said women can be tough, and they used to be more so. Women are wimpy now, even more than men. Most of us could not survive in the wilderness.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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It's all a conspiracy. I will not rest until all your husbands bathe in Loves Baby Soft each and every morning!

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I don't entirely agree but you do make some good points.

Trumpists will deny this, but the election of Trump was a backlash against the SCOTUS decision regarding same-sex marriage and Obama's solid support of LGBT rights. It was also a backlash against the transgender movement.

Most people I know who support Trump are the kind of people who are triggered by anything LGBT.
I agree.


To the OP I would say - just because they aren't going to tractor pulls or driving their ATV through the mud - doesn't mean men aren't men.


As we become more civilized ~ we value different things. Do you think women don't value the corporate executive dressed up in a suit that has never gone hunting?


Different venues - different skills.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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Did he have this printed on his t-shirt? He just came up and offered his belief to you?

Why do people feel compelled to just make crap up and come here and post it?
It was someone I know, and I know he claims to be a liberal.

After he said that, I asked if he is a pacifist and he said yes. I said I am the opposite of a pacifist, and it's true. It is wrong to attack other countries unprovoked, but a pacifist nation that won't defend itself would be out of business real quick.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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I object to the notion that men are more violent. Men have testosterone that engenders aggressiveness. How that aggressiveness is channeled is formed by their nurture. My husband has aggressive tendencies like many men. But he is thoroughly non-violent. But I can assure you that when a high schooler was sexually harassing his middle school daughter, his aggression was brought to bear so that the scum bag, dirt bag kid understood he was serious. When he rolls with his son, he uses his aggression to attempt to win. His aggression allows him to pursue fitness with dedication that many don't master.

I don't know any feminist anywhere who wants men and women to be the same. What they want is equality under the law. Period. To be viewed for their actual merit. That women can be employed in STEM fields rather than assuming that just because she is a woman, she will be bad at math. They want equal access to health care, unrestricted by someone else' religious beliefs being foisted on them. They want choice within their family on how they are going to raise their family.

Feminists I know also work actively for men's equal protection in family courts.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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this entire thread is pointless.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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Oh stop. "Revere the sanctity of life" that sounds so lofty. Too bad it's stupid.

Do other animals revere the sanctity of life? Not when they are hungry. And NEITHER DO WE. Unless you are a vegan -- but even then you kill those poor defenseless plants.

Life on earth REQUIRES killing.

On the other hand, every society on earth, human or animal, generally prohibits killing members of your own social group. With some exceptions of course.

All animals have violent instincts, for self-protection. Having violent instincts can mean ENJOYING violence.

If you have not noticed, little boys want to play with toy guns. You will deny it, of course, and say YOUR little boys play with Barbie dolls instead.
No you stop, and go do your womanly duties and make your man a sammich. Make sure you really KILL that baloney too.

Btw, you know nothing about my children. Stop assuming. It makes your "argument" weak. You lose. Thanks for playing.
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