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View Poll Results: Would you support a preemptive nuclear strike?
Yes; it's the quickest, most decisive way to neutralize a threat casualties and political fallout be damned 50 15.29%
No; Nuclear weapons should only be used should the enemy strike first with a nuclear weapon 277 84.71%
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: In an alternate universe according to some, AKA Aspergers
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
You're walking down the street minding your own business when some thug behind you starts yelling, "Hey! HEY! YOU!"

You turn to see what's going on. You realize that the thug, who has weapons on him, is talking to you.

He yells again, "Yeah YOU! I'm going to kick your ass!" and he starts swinging his weapons around.

Maybe he's telling the truth, maybe he's bluffing. You have 2 choices:

Choice 1: You can turn back around and ignore him because you actually believe that lie that they told you in grade school that if you ignore the person, they'll leave you alone. This will enrage the thug who has threatened you, and he will continue to provoke you, and possibly attack you because while you think you're showing strength, you're actually showing weakness.

If a dog is chasing you, you don't turn your back on that dog.

Choice 2: You stand up to the thug. You look him dead in the eye, act as crazy as you can, and tell him that if he even thinks of doing such a thing, he will face serious hell that will make him wish for his mommy's apron strings.

Well, now you've given the thug something to think about. "God dang...he's crazy enough to do it." The thug hesitates...sizing you up, seeing if you're for real. Does he save face or does he back down?

More than likely he's going to try to save face. So he issues another threat. He yells, "I'm going to take out all the people in that row of houses" right next to you, and he does have the weaponry to do that. He could spray them with bullets in less than 20 seconds.

It's not your house, but these are your neighbors. Now he's threatened you and those near you in your neighborhood.

Do you turn your back and ignore him, like a pansy b.... signaling weakness, or do you respond with calling all your guys to line up in various areas around the street, on top of buildings, hidden behind trees, at second story windows, camouflaged on the ground, all having weapons pointed at the thug.

You then tell the thug, "No. I don't think so. You open your fat trap one more time, you will pay, dearly."

Now what do you think that thug is going to do?

If he attacks you, he gets himself killed in the process, which means he is crazy and was going to attack you no matter what you did.

If he doesn't, it's because you stood up to him, showed force, and said, "Try me" with a show of force to back up those words.

That's what Trump is doing. If Kim nukes, no matter what Trump would have done, Kim was going to nuke anyway. So how about you all stop blaming Trump for the threat that Kim made with his nukes. The person in the wrong is not you, walking down the street minding your own business, it's the thug who came up behind you and threatened you.
Good analogy!
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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Last Updated Aug 8, 2017 3:31 PM EDT

President Trump addressed the ongoing crisis between the U.S. and North Korea at a briefing on opioids in New Jersey on Tuesday, issuing a stern warning to the regime for its continued provocations.

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States," warned Mr. Trump from his golf club in Bedminster.

"They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen," he told reporters. "He has been very threatening -- beyond a normal statement," Mr. Trump said of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. "As I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before."


Trump warns North Korea will be "met with fire and fury" - CBS News

This rhetoric is starting to sound a bit scary.
I agree about the rhetoric sounding scary. I hope diplomacy leads to a resolution to defuse the war of words. I majored in physics and studied the history of fission reactions and quantum mechanics. I am familiar with the notable scientists of the early 1900s for nuclear physics: Einstein, Dirac, Schroedinger, Oppenheimer, Planck, etc. This song from the 80s had lyrics about the turmoil of the Manhattan Project that ended WWII.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znr4yylgGH0
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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Here's an alternative explanation of what could really be going on. The whole thing is a psychological game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJIuReTD4NA
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Out West
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FYI: Guam is still there.
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Out West
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A thug who comes up to you brandishing a weapon obviously feels he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by carry out an unprovoked attack on you. The Un-ster has plenty to lose and he knows it. He's all talk and loves the drama he's embroiled in with Trump because of the attention it's lavishing on him. Don't forget this guy hangs out with Rodman and loves Hollywood movies. If he wanted to attack and hurt people he would have done it already instead of sitting around saying "WATCH OUT GUAM! I THREATENING YOU WITH BIG BOMB!"

If he can hit the US with a nuclear ICBM that means he can hit just about anybody else in the world with one too. He knows he's a dead man if he fires one at anybody. It's the same reason the US and USSR never fired them at each other and is the same reason nobody drives their car into oncoming traffic on purpose.
You don't know that. You make mistakes when you assume the potential attacker's motives. That's how people get hurt. You only have 2 choices: Turn back around and wait for the knife in your back, or stand up to them. That's it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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July 1993 - CLINTON'S WARNING IRKS NORTH KOREA

On his weekend visit to South Korea, President Clinton warned that if North Korea developed and used an atomic weapon, "we would quickly and overwhelmingly retaliate."

"It would mean the end of their country as they know it," he said.


Over two decades later and very little has changed... except N Korea is further along in their program.
You won't get any responses to this.....slick willie was a dem, so therefore....it's all good....
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:22 AM
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Here's an alternative explanation of what could really be going on. The whole thing is a psychological game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJIuReTD4NA
Perhaps Mr. Trump will appoint Mr. Adams, the creator of the Dilbert comic strip to negotiate a peace treaty with North Korea. Mr. Adams feels he'd be entirely capable of making a difference there.

Satire or reality? Who knows?

After all, The Dilbert principle refers to a 1990s theory by Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams stating that companies tend to systematically promote their least-competent employees to management, in order to limit the amount of damage they are capable of doing.

Mr. Trump, whether consciously or unconsciously, already appears to be implementing this principle.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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Kim is in the worst predicament he's ever been in.
If he follows through with his threats, then he's dead meat.
If he doesn't follow through with his threats, he's a chicken of the highest order.
President Trump is forcing Kim to prove manhood.
Obama never put Kim in this situation, because Obama was a chicken already.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Kim is in the worst predicament he's ever been in.
If he follows through with his threats, then he's dead meat.
If he doesn't follow through with his threats, he's a chicken of the highest order.
President Trump is forcing Kim to prove manhood.
Obama never put Kim in this situation, because Obama was a chicken already.

Obama, preceded by Billy Clinton, did everything they could to appease NK and China. If Obama was still POTUS, he would be sending NK a pallet loaded with cash.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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Obama, preceded by Billy Clinton, did everything they could to appease NK and China. If Obama was still POTUS, he would be sending NK a pallet loaded with cash.
Exactly, that's why the Democrats will suffer when Obama returns to politics, he'll be a reminder of how soft they were/are.
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