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View Poll Results: Would you support a preemptive nuclear strike?
Yes; it's the quickest, most decisive way to neutralize a threat casualties and political fallout be damned 51 15.13%
No; Nuclear weapons should only be used should the enemy strike first with a nuclear weapon 286 84.87%
Voters: 337. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-09-2017, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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Trump talked about how "he" upgraded the nuclear arsenal. Actually Obama upgraded the arsenal.
As a failing president, he wants people to believe he actually does stuff, very important stuff. As a flaming narcissist, it has to be bigger, greater, more important and powerful stuff than anybody else, especially his predecessor. Gotta be galling that Obama went out on such a high note and Trump continues a steady slide toward the presidential basement.

Trump treats the truth as an inconvenience to be overcome. Taking credit for someone else's accomplishments/ideas is very Trump and very narcissistic. Why work hard to achieve your own successes if your sense of morality allows you to, instead, just take credit for those you covet. Or to create your own delusions of success without lifting a finger or straining a brain cell.

 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Default Trumps "hugging himself" body language in fire and brimstone statement

what's with the hugging himself while trying to project a standing of strength? Comes across more like; "mama hold me I'm scared!"




almost a parody of the Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition sketch

fire and fury...fire and fury and frankly force...fire, fury, force, surprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope...and nice red uniforms



meanwhile in Pyongyang...

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...im-jong-un.jpg
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Occam's razor applies to rational people. ...
You've hooked on Occams razor and not answered what Kim's end game would be in a 1st strike. He knows he wouldn't survive the retaliation. His weapons are for deterrence and his perpetual war-time footing and posturing are to keep order at home.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
North Korea's weapons are for deterrence, not for a first strike.
Kim Jon un is standing next to a miniature nuclear warhead.. that is not for deterrence. It is for destruction of cities.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Usually that means you are holding back from saying more.. restraint.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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Might be because people like Stephen Colbert are mocking his hand gestures.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Kim Jon un is standing next to a miniature nuclear warhead.. that is not for deterrence. It is for destruction of cities.
Well yes, all nukes, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), and the nuke arms race are/were to threaten the destruction of cities. By definition deterrence.
What would be Kim's end game in a 1st strike?
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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McCain trashed Trump before Trump say anything negative about McCain.. McCain also trashed Trump's supporters.. no one ever talks about how McCain hates Trump and hated him before Trump ever said anything about McCain. Fact.
Yeah I know. He (McCain) called Trump supporters crazy. McCain is pretty vindictive.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
Mattis sounds rational and wasn't threatening nuclear attacks on North Korea.
Trump was unhinged.

"fire and fury like the world has never seen"
Shock and awe was already taken.

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Originally Posted by redwood66 View Post
How does fire and fury equate to nuclear? We have plenty of fire and fury options that are not nukes for pete's sake.
Exactly.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Worst case. North Korea nukes South Korea. USA flattens North Korea, with conventional bombs, to oblivion in retaliation. Hundreds of thousands of people die. Pretty horrible scenario.

Trump didn't start this North Korea nuclear disaster for the world. He may well finish it, however.
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