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Old 08-11-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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This is so stupid, from the time frame of travel to space radiation its just a waste of money. The gov. could not take care of NOLA when it flooded. Now it wants to put someone on a planet that has no air or may not even have water? This is dumb folly.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:11 PM
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Do you enjoy the technology you have today?
If it wasn't for JFK and Apollo you would still be using number 2 pencil on a piece of paper solving solutions yourself there Einstein ...
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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iI agree that it is a complete waste of money...that we don't have!
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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Do you enjoy the technology you have today?
If it wasn't for JFK and Apollo you would still be using number 2 pencil on a piece of paper solving solutions yourself there Einstein ...
I would have supported the Moon program back then. We were still a prosperous nation with a strong manufacturing base. That is not the case today. Also, going to Mars will be multiple times more expensive than going to the Moon. If we spent that money on replacements for number two pencils and pieces of paper we will be mich better off.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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A lot of Mars missions have been bandied about. Is there a specific one you are having issues with?
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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Do you enjoy the technology you have today?
If it wasn't for JFK and Apollo you would still be using number 2 pencil on a piece of paper solving solutions yourself there Einstein ...

For the calculations I don't work out in my head, I use pen and paper. That is still the most durable and dependable means of recording anything. And as far as travel to Mars is concerned, it's been shown that solar and cosmic rays would fry the brains of anyone traveling there. Read the article at this link:

NASA awards UC Irvine $9 million to study underlying mechanisms of ?space brain? | School of Medicine | University of California, Irvine

The preliminary research by this scientist has already shown that 90% of the brain's memory functions would be destroyed, just during the trip to Mars. Only if some currently non-existing electronic or magnetic shielding system were developed, that would envelop a spacecraft, could a manned Mars voyage be possible. If it failed, for even a few moments---------------.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Hilarious thing is most of you idiots railing against NASA would be fine with the extra 50b we threw at the military. The US Military loses more money each year than NASA gets. We get a great ROI on NASA and should be expanding funding for stuff like that as opposed to war.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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Hilarious thing is most of you idiots railing against NASA would be fine with the extra 50b we threw at the military. The US Military loses more money each year than NASA gets. We get a great ROI on NASA and should be expanding funding for stuff like that as opposed to war.
Martians aren't threatening to kill us. Earthlings are.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:48 PM
 
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Just an FYI. The real benefit of these types of expenditures is the increase in overall knowledge. Someone mentioned, for example, that to get to Mars, radiation shielding would need be developed. Who knows what kind of applications such shielding, once developed for Mars, might have on earth.


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Hilarious thing is most of you idiots railing against NASA would be fine with the extra 50b we threw at the military. The US Military loses more money each year than NASA gets. We get a great ROI on NASA and should be expanding funding for stuff like that as opposed to war.
Doubt that. A lot of the anti-space program types are "let's spend it on education instead" types.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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If it failed, for even a few moments---------------.
Not much would happen, unless there was intense solar flare activity right at that moment. Apollo astronauts spent days outside the Van Allen belts.

But you're essentially right, radiation shielding is the biggest unsolved problem. Pretty much everything else can be solved with technology that we have, albeit at great expense. That also means we're unlikely to see an Apollo-style boost in technology - getting stuff to orbit (orbit is halfway to anywhere) is solved with tech that we have on hand now. Any improvements are likely to be incremental. (And just because I'm that guy, a lot of the Apollo tech really came from military programs. Small programmable computers are cool for going to the moon, but instrumental for making ICBMs.)
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