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Old 08-11-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Originally Posted by cat1116 View Post
I go to YouTube to get ideas on how people resolve yard issues, product reviews and reminders of how to do certain things that I forgot about when I bought the product, et cetera. Sometimes view music videos, cute animal videos, ... And then occasionally check trending subjects and watch some things that may be of interest to me. You Tube is a plus for me in that respect.
Youtube has a variety of content, which is why it's so popular.

Many do go their for political commentary, both to share and observe different views.

The problem is that Youtube is so popular, it's the most rational platform to go to. We as a society need to think if we truly view it ok that here in a liberal society some of the largest and most influential services are holding extremely illiberal views.

I'm not conservative, but the idea that conservative speech would be censored is extremely troubling to me.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TheDusty View Post
Youtube has a variety of content, which is why it's so popular.

Many do go their for political commentary, both to share and observe different views.

The problem is that Youtube is so popular, it's the most rational platform to go to. We as a society need to think if we truly view it ok that here in a liberal society some of the largest and most influential services are holding extremely illiberal views.

I'm not conservative, but the idea that conservative speech would be censored is extremely troubling to me.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
There is absolutely nothing stopping conservatives from creating their own right wing video platform. Nothing. Conservatives believe in free markets. They support the baker who doesn't want to be forced to bake a gay wedding cake.
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by manash66 View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8


Well anyone have an alternative?
Thank god they are getting rid of Paul Joseph Watson, I hate him and his smug cockiness. I agree with the right only that he has a right to speak, but at the same time, YouTube is a private company, and they have the right NOT to broadcast him.....
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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There is absolutely nothing stopping conservatives from creating their own right wing video platform. Nothing. Conservatives believe in free markets. They support the baker who doesn't want to be forced to bake a gay wedding cake.
I'm not arguing that Google shouldn't be allowed to do this. I'm saying they just shouldn't be doing this because this is a much bigger issue than baking a wedding cake for a gay couple.

A huge problem with political "discourse" right now is the increasing number of people who get their news almost entirely, if not completely entirely, from echo chambers. Youtube, being such a massive platform, risking becoming an echo chamber would make it one of the largest echo chambers around. Breitbart and Huffpo, which largely never express viewpoints outside of a specific scope, would look like small potatoes by contrast.

And make no mistake, this policy won't just effect pure political commentary. Lots of other youtubers will casually make a political statement that could subject anyone from gamers to gardeners to censorship.

Again, this isn't an issue of Google being allowed to do something. It's a critique of rather or not they should be doing it in the first place.
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Starting?

This censorship and banning started last February 2016.

Youtube(owned by Google) has been removing videos for 6 months now, after the Conservatives took over the messaging.

Googles ad-buys have also dropped all conservative based sellers.

Facebook, has been censoring for over 3 years now, but really ramped it up after Trump was sworn into office, with full permanent banning.


There is a class-action lawsuit in the works, for the censoring of political ideas and the 1st amendment, with cartels that have monopolized the Internets town square soapbox.
Just one problem with that lawsuit. First Amendment only applies to government institutions and facilities, it doesn't cover private companies. Checkmate......
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Subscribe to your local newspaper and just write to them that corporations should have the right to kill us to maximize their profits.



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Originally Posted by manash66 View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8


Well anyone have an alternative?
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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How about the right of people to kill themselves with extreme tobacco use? Did you know they have tens of thousands of videos with extreme tobacco use? I think you can find drunks also using that government approved drug on You Tube. Do these make you feel better?

What are your favorite videos that you think have been banned?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8


Well anyone have an alternative?[/quote]
 
Old 08-11-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Ben Shapiro
 
Old 08-11-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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Yes, their site, their rules. So people are not allowed to express their opinion on it? This is one thing I've never understood about people who say this as if it is a statement that ends the discussion. We're all giving our opinions here. A response that implies that opinions are not appropriate to express are not really helpful in such a venue.
You can opine about it all you want.

I'm just stating that they should be free to editorialize as much as they want ban anyone for any reason.

If you don't like it, you can complain as much as you like. I never said not to, I just gave my opinion.
 
Old 08-11-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Originally Posted by AlongTheI-5 View Post
I will help the poor depressed truth finders out. You can:

Create an alt to Facebook. Call it Racebook.

Create an alt to YouTube. Call it StormTube.
Racebook. That's a good one. And Obama could be the CEO since he was such a big racist.
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