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Old 08-12-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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Not only are they not pushing for it, they actively don't want it, and are completely unprepared for it. In point of fact, if a draft were imposed, only a tiny percentage of those eligible would actually be drafted, since the military couldn't handle or make use of more.

And if they tried to draft that tiny percentage, a large percentage of those would likely just refuse to go, and would probably find strong support for that.

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The military isn't pushing for a draft, why the hysteria?
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Give it up with all the hysteria! We are not going to war with North Korea. If we did we would crush that fat toad! Go USA!!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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Give it up with all the hysteria! We are not going to war with North Korea. If we did we would crush that fat toad! Go USA!!!
We would crush Trump?
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Newark, NJ
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I think conscription is a largely outdated practice anyway, just as lining up your infantry in front of each other and firing away became obsolete as soon as mechanized warfare became a reality. Warm bodies don't win wars in the 21st century just like they don't hand assemble widgets in factories to anywhere near the extent they used to.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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SELECTIVE SERVICE HAS NEVER BEEN ENDED

Since 1777, the militia were defined as all able bodied male citizens, between 17 and 45. They were obligated to train, fight, and die, on command. That is the reason why conscription is 100% constitutional.

Militia duty:
“AGE.... In the United States, at twenty-five, a man [citizen] may be elected a representative in congress;
at thirty, a senator; and
at thirty-five, he may be chosen president.
He is liable to serve in the militia from eighteen to forty- five inclusive, unless exempted for some particular reason.”
- - - From Bouvier’s Law dictionary, 1856 ed.
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder.

Art. 1, Sec. 8, USCON (1789)
Congress shall have power ... To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

Articles of Confederation, VI. (1777)
...every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of field pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage.

PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY
TITLE 51, PART II, CHAPTER 3
THE MILITIA
Sec. 301. Formation.
Enactment. Chapter 3 was added August 1, 1975, P.L.233, No.92, effective January 1, 1976.
§ 301. Formation.
(a) Pennsylvania militia.--The militia of this Commonwealth shall consist of:
(1) all ABLE-BODIED CITIZENS of the United States and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing within this Commonwealth, who are at least 17 years six months of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of age;
(Note: PA militia obligation is longer than the Federal: 17-55 versus 17-45!)

Another reference about citizenship and the drop in status from mandatory civic duties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
“The great draft riot in New York City in July 1863 involved Irish immigrants who had been signed up as citizens to swell the vote of the city's Democratic political machine, not realizing it made them liable for the draft.”
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. . .
“It may be laid down, as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every citizen who enjoys the protection of a free government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency.”
- - - George Washington; "Sentiments on a Peace Establishment" in a letter to Alexander Hamilton (2 May 1783); published in The Writings of George Washington (1938), edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, Vol. 26, p. 289.
[... Every citizen ... owes a portion of his property ... and services in defense ... in the militia ... from 18 to 50 years of age... ]

IN SHORT,
The American citizen has no endowed right to life, nor liberty, nor absolute ownership because, as a subject, he can be ordered to train, fight, and die, on command (militia duty), and was obligated to give up a portion of his property (taxes, etc).

Did they forget to inform you that you consented to this?
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I doubt a draft would be implemented.
The world does need to concern themselves with disposing of that mentally arthritic disgusting toad of a deranged dictator who is obsessed with destroying America!
Then worry about Kim Jong Un after that
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:56 PM
 
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I doubt a draft would be implemented.
The world does need to concern themselves with disposing of that mentally arthritic disgusting toad of a deranged dictator who is obsessed with destroying America!
Then worry about Kim Jong Un after that
Yeah Trump really has destroyed our country,,,,,NOT!!!!!
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:36 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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Lots of proud cowards boasting here. No allegiance to country, no national pride. You should be thankful that brave Americans made the ultimate sacrifice so that you can freely post your ungrateful comments with no fear of retribution.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: The United States of America
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Thank god that I'm too old to be drafted.
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:57 PM
 
Location: The United States of America
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Yeah Trump really has destroyed our country,,,,,NOT!!!!!
A journey begins with its first step.
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