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Old 08-13-2017, 09:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87 View Post
No.
They're historic monuments are they not?

It's not a false equivalency. If someone wants to view them, let them. What harm is an inanimate object going to do I'm being serious.
If that is the way you feel, I suggest you make sure it doesn't happen in your town. What other towns choose to do is their business. Who are you to tell them what statues they have to have in their parks?

 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: PSL
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You must not realize that people voted to have the statue removed.

It is to be placed in a museum where people who want to learn/visit a place geared toward the war can go and learn.

You know, just like there is a holocaust museum.
why pay a museum to view them, when they're open in public arena?

Speaking of holocaust museum, you know Auschwitz is still standing, right?
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Well for one we didnt mow them down with a Dodge Charger and then flee the scene.
*sigh* So...all members of these organization's you hate bear the responsibility for one person's actions? Do you know how silly that sounds to me?
How do you even logically support that position?
So many reasons to despise the Nazi's..but that person plowed into the crowd of his own volition...IMO, because he is seeking to be a martyr. I, for one. don't give him that importance. Just a disturbed killer..using ideology as a cover for his sickness.
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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The left leaning city council voted 3 to 2 to remove it, despite VA law protects war monuments and there are private contract and trust issues over the statue. The area is so left leaning nowadays, the public probably would vote to remove it though.
Now, now....I have seen someone posting to you in this very thread with a link that showed it is NOT against Virginia law. That is intellectually disingenuous. Shame.

For the record, that law does not apply to any monument erected before 1998.
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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The left leaning city council voted 3 to 2 to remove it, despite VA law protects war monuments and there are private contract and trust issues over the statue. The area is so left leaning nowadays, the public probably would vote to remove it though.
The left, The Left, The Left.......is that that gets regurgitated?
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:40 PM
 
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*sigh* So...all members of these organization's you hate bear the responsibility for one person's actions? Do you know how silly that sounds to me?
How do you even logically support that position?
So many reasons to despise the Nazi's..but that person plowed into the crowd of his own volition...IMO, because he is seeking to be a martyr. I, for one. don't give him that importance. Just a disturbed killer..using ideology as a cover for his sickness.
Where did I say there were all responsible? Go ahead I will wait while you try to spin it that I said that.

Since I didn't....I note you ignored the last part.

Since you ignored it, white supremacists, nationalists whatever they are today, hate people based on who they are, something they cannot change. We despite the choices these people make. A choice that they can change at any moment and be welcomed back. That is the difference.
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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why pay a museum to view them, when they're open in public arena?

Speaking of holocaust museum, you know Auschwitz is still standing, right?
I would ask those that voted to have it done away with.

So is Richmond. And?
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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Now, now....I have seen someone posting to you in this very thread with a link that showed it is NOT against Virginia law. That is intellectually disingenuous. Shame.

For the record, that law does not apply to any monument erected before 1998.
It's not settled that the law only protected new monuments.
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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why pay a museum to view them, when they're open in public arena?

Speaking of holocaust museum, you know Auschwitz is still standing, right?
Cool. I am glad they CHOOSE to leave it. I fully support their right to do so. The same way I support the right of towns to choose to move statues to museums or even take them down. Why do you think you have the right to tell them they cannot do that when you are not even a member of that community?
 
Old 08-13-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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If that is the way you feel, I suggest you make sure it doesn't happen in your town. What other towns choose to do is their business. Who are you to tell them what statues they have to have in their parks?
I'm an American with an appreciation for history, who isnt pursuaded by illogical emotion, that's who I am. These issues pertaining to confederate monuments is logically wrong, it serves a liberal progressive ideology that these monuments are shrines to bigotry... same with the outrage over a rebel battle flag.

They're not. The KKK and their bedsheets and hats and burning crosses are.

Seriously what's next? British Americans cry over revolutionary war monuments?
Bulldozing of houses along the underground railroad?

Seriously what's next to be taken down because someone subjectively deemed it "offensive"?

My town was built in the 1920s so there's no historic confederate monuments here.
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