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So if Nazis and the KKK and White Supremacists show up in your town, are you just going to let them spew their garbage and go about your business? Pat them on the head and consider it all done?
I'm not.
An ongoing theme at the Holocaust Museum is "Never again." And "never again" starts with each one of us. If the Germans had poured out of their homes and protested loudly against Hitler, and stood up for the Jews, and refused to stand by, fearfully, while he built his killing machine, maybe the Holocaust would never have happened.
If those disgusting Nazi pigs want a fight, they're gonna get it everywhere they go. Yes--they have a First Amendment right to have their say. But so does every person opposed to them. If they're gonna show up armed to spew hate, they're going to get it back in spades.
Spoken by a radical liberal that loves violence. It is no better than the KKK.
It's fact, how can an idiot watch the TV, see Antifa with baseball bats, helmets, mace, and then say " It was all the Nazis fault ". We have already determined the White Supremacists are scumbags, no one denies that, but Stevie Wonder can plainly see an Antifa protestor use mace against a Nazi how can you blame the Nazi?
Well, I can't say you are totally wrong - but I can say this.
"Decent" pay would be MUCH more than you might project. It would be, for example, much more than 2X the figure you quote. And let's go further. Some Americans might do roofing for $20 an hour - plus benefits. But, how many years can you do it as a career without injury? What happens to you after that? Does society support your broken down bodies (like the coal miners who are all on disability by 50?).
You are only 1/2 right. For the real answer, we can just look...as usual...to Europe. Germans are not lazy. People get paid REAL wages and they have benefits you would kill for.
From what I hear a LOT of their workers are immigrants.
So, I report, you decide.
BTW, I have two friends who make 70K a year or more installing PV solar panels. They are white. So what you say is possible - but I really don't think this is easy in areas of lower income (they are in NJ).
Not all, but certainly some of the jobs that are being done by immigrants these days used to be decent paying, family-supporting jobs. Slaughterhouses, roofing, ...
Small farms used to support families. Now agri-business is all about huge farms, farm subsidies, immigrants providing the labor.
The small farmer is quaint reminder of the past, selling organic produce to farm-to-table restaurants and providing produce to meals-in-a-box operations.
So it is ok for Antifa to perpetrate violence against protesters who are neo nazis? Will the line be drawn there or will the list of people it is ok for antifa and the alt-left to bash in the head with clubs and bats get bigger as time goes on?
Neo nazis shouldnt be out voicing their VERY DANGEROUS VIOLENT opinions or ideology. They follow a guy who killed MILLONS, you know how did he do it? spreading the kind of ideology and justifications this neo nazis are spreading.
What violence were the anti fascist spreading?
If more neo nazis come out and march, then neo nazi violence will start to get bigger and bigger, blacks will be beaten or killed, jews, anti fascist, left wingers, ANYONE thats not white and nazi will suffer violence. And you are defending THEIR RIGHT to express themselves but not the rest of the humanity right to live and have fundamental rights??
The angriest and loudest of the bunch are ready to paint all right wing conservatives as white supremacist/neo Nazis. They are quick to call everyone and anything they don't like "racist" or "Nazi". They were already unhinged before the rally that led to tragedy.
Remember when Trump supporters were constantly being attacked during the elections? Those were unhinged lunatic leftists, and there are more than a few of them running around out there. Thankfully, they are usually effeminate scrawny males that possess little in the way of upper body strength, so injuries were not too bad.
If you want to talk about the strangest of bedfellows....
So, when I was growing up I knew some families that sent their teens to Israel to live in communes. I mean - this is 100% what Israel was all about. Much of it continues to this day. These people would be described as far left in that they believed in "commune ism" as their social structure.
Yet, today, the Right - which loves Israel enough to die for it - says that they hate "the left". In terms of a modern state, you can't go much further left than communal farms and industries (Israel).
So which is it? My head is spinning.
Israel started out as Socialist and not Communist. The communes were called kibbutzim. Kibbutzim for the most part no longer exist (currently around 2% of Israeli's) as they are now mini business parks. As the second generation became adults (people born after 1948) it became Capitalist with Socialism was kept as its foundation. Israel has not been to the Right since 1948 as it's been to the Left a few times. Each time the ideologies of the Left were put into place it failed miserably (Land for Peace: Removed all Jews from the Gaza Strip and instead of the Palestinians taking that time to grow into a nation, they became a Terrorist state as the fired rockets into Israeli within hours of the last Jew leaving).
if they were not hurting anyone then we drive past them.
if Antifa hadn;t showed up they wouldn't have gotten any attention, wouldn't that have been better?
The left planned this . The radical left want to look like good guys with bats beating up people, Some of those people were not KKK. They were Americans that were protesting removing history. Some of them most likely wound up in the hospital.
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