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I'd believe you if the White Supremacist rally-goers hadn't staged a march (unpermitted) the night before with torches and Nazi chants, and if they had followed the plan the next day, rather than showing up hours early, from all directions, and actively confronting their opposition along the way.
Also, not to make too fine a point of it, but pepper spray is a defensive weapon. Baseball bats and guns are not.
They beat up several dozen U-VA students on Friday night and then came roaming around Saturday morning looking for trouble.
There are videos of the KKK/Nazi contingency rushing people and beating on them.
They were looking for a fight and they got it. No reasonable person could look at those videos and imagine the counter protestors were instigating this mayhem.
Blaming the protesters who opposed the alt-right marchers is identical to blaming the allies for the violence of World War II. It's absolutely amazing that anyone can hear statements like the ones that Trump made and not be revolted. With every episode he is showing that psychologically he is not fit for office. And we now know that there is no doubt about his support of white supremacy, and that he buys into their propaganda at a fundamental level. He was simply parroting the poison that oozes out of sites like Daily Stormer and Breitbart every day.
How absurd. Plenty of people have them in their backyards.
When a crowd of people holding torches is also holding confederate flags, bats, wearing helmets and shouting Jews Will Not Replace us and Blood and Soil, there is a tendency for logical intelligent people to be reminded of other gatherings.
Call those people fools is simply a way of deflecting from the obvious.
Exactly...and one has to wonder why they feel the need to deflect.
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Plain and simple, these white supremacist groups had only a few objectives at this rally: hatred, division, and violence, and Trump is actually sympathetic to some of them. This is an outrage!
Plain and simple, these white supremacist groups had only a few objectives at this rally: hatred, division, and violence, and Trump is actually sympathetic to some of them. This is an outrage!
And the alt-left didn't have weapons, hatred, division and violence ?
Plain and simple, these white supremacist groups had only a few objectives at this rally: hatred, division, and violence, and Trump is actually sympathetic to some of them. This is an outrage!
He is sympathetic by condemning them and specifically calling out the KKK and white supremacist groups? You people are being lied to and used by the press to spread racial division but I doubt you care, nothing will change.
He is sympathetic by condemning them and specifically calling out the KKK and white supremacist groups? You people are being lied to and used by the press to spread racial division but I doubt you care, nothing will change.
The press is pumping out dishonesty and propaganda on the level not seen in the West since Nazi Germany ironically.
Here is a pic of the car barrelling down the street just prior to hitting the protesters. Notice there is not a mark on it in the back. Your claim that it was attacked from behind with sticks and bats does not hold up. The car is perfect in the back. It wasn't attacked by antifas with clubs until AFTER it ran over 20 people. Some of them twice.
If he intended to run people down, then why is the car braking hard in this photo?
The rally goers (nazis) can provide evidence to support a lawsuit by the deceased woman's family against Charlottesville and the state of Virginia. They will also file their own lawsuit. State of Emergency was bogus, police ordered to stand down. That street full of people should have been shut down to traffic under this state of emergency order. The counter protesters were allowed to run wild while the rally goers were pushed into that angry armed crowd. It was like something out of Mad Max - the idea was to throw them to the lions but it is one of the lions that paid the ultimate price. Governer, Mayor at fault for failing to control the chaos when there were more than enough police to do so- but they STOOD down. That is NOT policing or upholding law and order.
Ever read the rules of the road, or even used common sense? You don't drive a car through a crowd of people, whether the street is shut down or not.
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Exactly. I keep thinking of what the early days of Nazi Germany looked like and I imagine it looked somewhat like what's going on today. People blowing off the evidence of evil growing among them. Not wanting to be too confrontational. Not thinking it could really happen here.
When David Duke is praising the president's reaction to a Nazi/KKK march, it's time to pay attention.
I heard a story about the rise of the Nazis on NPR this morning. Can't find it now, but yes, exactly as you said until Hitler invaded Poland.
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I don't know, it looks like he was driving recklessly before that. Even if he panicked at some point, he has to bear responsibility. I don't blame him for backing up - he would have been pulled out of that car like Reginald Denny and beaten into a coma. The people that jumped behind the car, very stupid. Of course he was going to get out of there as they were smashing their way into the car.
You are making excuses for him. Yes, he probably would have been beaten up if he had gotten out of the car. He could have waited for the police to arrive.
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