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Old 08-21-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Oh wow! This video shows the poor woman, who lost her life, being thrown up and over the car if front of the Dodge. The driver of the Dodge had to have seen her! He intentionally mowed into her at a high speed.
You don't know that it was intentional. That's just conjecture. Wait for the trial. It'll be really hard to convict the driver of anything other than possibly hit and run due to his slowing down as he approached the crowd congestion (brake lights lit as he passed the bicycle on his right), followed by the left-wing attacking his car from the rear after which he fled forward in self-defense.

There IS good cause to prosecute the leftie who attacked his car and precipitated the horrible chain event accident. The one who committed the first act, setting off all that subsequently followed, is the guilty party. There could also be cause to charge the middle car for tailgaiting and/or wreckless driving, as well.

Keep in mind that the left had been attacking occupied cars all day, hitting them with flagpoles, bats, kicking them, throwing rocks, bottles, and cement-filled soda cans at them, etc. They pre-established an environment of terror and fear of attack.

 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Why Charlottesville?! It seems a progressive college town, that is doing very well...
That's why. It's also why they want to speak at Berkeley. It's intentional to attract attention and protests.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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OK, I don't know much about the American Nazi Party, but I'm sure they must be extremely different from actually National Socialism (or they are extremely confused), which used to be: collectivist, hating on non-Germans (nothing to do with "whites", as actual Nazis hated other white people and killed many of them), hating on American sense of individualism and economic liberalism; anti-America overall. The "black" question was absent from actual Nazism, since it was a non-issue back then in Europe.

OK maybe I'm wrong since I'm not american but: I have a hard time taking those people seriously; they appear as an insignifant bunch of rednecks throwing a fit, who'll crawl back to their west-virginian wood cabins when they are done with their BS...
These people NEED to be taken seriously, since their platform is the basis for white nationalism and white supremacy alike. The American Nazi Party advocates for white safety and positive eugenics for the preservation of the Aryan Race and adhere to the concept of "the Nordic ideal". Oh, and they also demand that steps be taken to halt the spread of hereditary defects and racially impure blood within the gene pool. That pretty much eliminates blacks, Jews (especially), and any people of color - or any whites that THEY don't consider to be "racially pure". That could be anyone they don't like, for that matter.

These are not "an insignificant bunch of rednecks", but a sophisticated, web-savvy group that knows how to appeal to disenfranchised white males, particularly in a certain age group. They're been around for a long time and are emerging now in even greater numbers because they have received what they consider to be tacit approval and support from the President.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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These are your "engineer" calculations, "Go find a sedan and take notice of the structural beams?"

How about you provide us with a speed estimate based on time elapsed on the video calculated with estimated distance the car traveled when hitting the car in front? Please show us your calculations.
I already posted a spreadsheet for multiple speeds vs time vs length of the block in this thread. Go look for it as I'm not doing it again. Each block is 216 ft long, get a calculator and do the basic math. Then you can look up the car and work out it's part of the data which includes stopping distance needed for it's weight.

Here I'll give you a start:
BBC - Standard Grade Bitesize Maths I - Distance, speed and time : Revision
http://www.government-fleet.com/cont...-distance.aspx
 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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You don't know that it was intentional. That's just conjecture. Wait for the trial. It'll be really hard to convict the driver of anything other than possibly hit and run due to his slowing down as he approached the crowd congestion (brake lights lit as he passed the bicycle on his right), followed by the left-wing attacking his car from the rear after which he fled forward in self-defense.

There IS good cause to prosecute the leftie who attacked his car and precipitated the horrible chain event accident. The one who committed the first act, setting off all that subsequently followed, is the guilty party. There could also be cause to charge the middle car for tailgaiting and/or wreckless driving, as well.

Keep in mind that the left had been attacking occupied cars all day, hitting them with flagpoles, bats, kicking them, throwing rocks, bottles, and cement-filled soda cans at them, etc. They pre-established an environment of terror and fear of attack.
If the driver was going so slow as you claim, he could have stopped rather than slam into people and cars!
 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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I already posted a spreadsheet for multiple speeds vs time vs length of the block in this thread. Go look for it as I'm not doing it again. Each block is 216 ft long, get a calculator and do the basic math. Then you can look up the car and work out it's part of the data which includes stopping distance needed for it's weight.

Here I'll give you a start:
BBC - Standard Grade Bitesize Maths I - Distance, speed and time : Revision
I was hoping for your engineering input on this one. What speed was the driver going when he slammed into the woman?
 
Old 08-21-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
You don't know that it was intentional. That's just conjecture. Wait for the trial. It'll be really hard to convict the driver of anything other than possibly hit and run due to his slowing down as he approached the crowd congestion (brake lights lit as he passed the bicycle on his right), followed by the left-wing attacking his car from the rear after which he fled forward in self-defense.

There IS good cause to prosecute the leftie who attacked his car and precipitated the horrible chain event accident. The one who committed the first act, setting off all that subsequently followed, is the guilty party. There could also be cause to charge the middle car for tailgaiting and/or wreckless driving, as well.

Keep in mind that the left had been attacking occupied cars all day, hitting them with flagpoles, bats, kicking them, throwing rocks, bottles, and cement-filled soda cans at them, etc. They pre-established an environment of terror and fear of attack.
The statement from this witness sure seems to indicate not only was it intentional but was first degree!

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Witness Chris Mahony said he and a friend, who shot one of the videos, were walking down the street when he saw the gray car on the other side of the street.

"It just sat there, looking down the road," he said. "I thought that's a bit strange. There didn't seem to be any other cars stopping him from going. And then a couple moments we heard a car going incredibly fast down the road and then it plowed into the crowd."
James Alex Fields Jr. Arrested: Maumee man arrested for Charlottesville crash | WTVR.com
 
Old 08-21-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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An Antifa supporter was driving the car that rammed into 18 pedestrians and killing one of them?
A lefty/Antifa attacked a car from behind causing it to flee forward. Not the first or only time the exact same thing happened in Charlottesville that day. Even a reporter on the scene, Taylor Lorenz, described the same thing happening to a Lexus.

What do you think happens when an occupied car is attacked and attempts to flee? That's why the left/Antifa shouldn't be attacking occupied cars. Scare the driver into fleeing, and unfortunately a tragedy occurred this time as a result. That's the left's/Antifa's fault. STOP violently terrorizing everyone with whom you disagree.

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Old 08-21-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The statement from this witness sure seems to indicate not only was it intentional but was first degree!

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We've all already listed our hypothetical results based on the information available. Based on all the video's and information online and in this thread, why don't you list your thoughts on how all this went down. The end result was he pulled right towards parked cars (there is no parking on left side) and crashed into a car. Now go ahead.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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If the driver was going so slow as you claim, he could have stopped rather than slam into people and cars!
He could have if his car wasn't attacked from the rear just tens of feet before that (it wasn't even an entire block) by a leftie/Antifa. That attack caused him to flee forward. ALL of the occupied cars the left/Antifa attacked that day fled. It's all on video.
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