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Old 08-24-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
There was a pole and a parked pick-up truck on the right.

Also, remember that the impact did not occur at the intersection but rather at two cars down from the intersection (white car and red van stopped at intersection). Both the white car and the red van were pushed forward into the intersection from the velocity of the impact.


This picture show the approximate place of impact.
Note that the flagpole is BEHIND the truck he passed on the right before impact. After that, a path up on the sidewalk is clear except for pedestrians, which he specifically chose to NOT hit, reversing instead.

 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Why do that?
So that you don't spout off with lies that are easily falsified thus making yourself look either dishonest or stupid?

Anyone can follow the steps I listed to see it for themselves with their own eyes from the perspective on the very street where the incident occurred.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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So that you don't spout off with lies
I have posted no lies. Everything I've posted can be verified independently.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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I have posted no lies. Everything I've posted can be verified independently.
You said there were no poles on the lead up to the collision which is independently verifiable... as a lie.

Now that that is verified, you just said that you "posted no lies" which in and of itself... is another lie.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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The photos are so clear.

Question - Can anybody even SEE the white car in the road? Or the taller minivan?

In stark contrast to the narrative pushed by some that *only* Heather was jaywalking, there is, in fact, a crowd with many holding posters etc. that would have further obstructed Fields' view of vehicles.

I'd noticed that earlier from the video but thought maybe it was just the distance. And sure, not knowing the total degree of the slope where Fields launched from you can't know his initial view.

BUT if his initial view was clear enough to see those cars, he HAD to have seen all the people milling about. So distracted driving? Hardly. An accident. How?

If anyone can pick out the white car in the first two photos, they have better eyes than I do.

So given the ongoing discussion about his path, why not just hit the counter-protestors right in front of you and keep going (cars not seen) as opposed to going off the road? To the left I see the buildings, lamp post, street sign.

As a side note, there are TWO men directly hit by Fields who flew into the air not just the one man whose reported story I saw earlier. (I variously saw pics of one who seemed white then looked black, which I found confusing. They both had on tan shorts and sneakers.)

As for comments that Fields may have been targeted further back on the street as U R due to HIS clothing IDing him as U R, listen to the video posted on #5554. At 1:23. The speaker comments that the windows are tinted to where Fields was invisible. "Could not see who was in it."

The Antifa - and possibly other bystanders - swarmed Fields because of their assessment that the crash was deliberate. Listen to their comments on various videos. Sure, some assumed he was U R (one called him one of the Nazis). Not an illogical assumption, really, given the atmosphere that day in C'ville.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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Note that the flagpole is BEHIND the truck he passed on the right before impact. After that, a path up on the sidewalk is clear except for pedestrians, which he specifically chose to NOT hit, reversing instead.
He would have had to hit the white car first because the white car was the second vehicle behind the stop sign. Now if the 2010 Dodge Challenger had the technology to drive sideways, you might have a point.

 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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You said there were no poles on the lead up to the collision which is independently verifiable... as a lie.
No, I said there were no utility poles blocking his egress at the intersection of 4th and Water, which is true. Look at the bird's eye satellite image of the intersection.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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He would have had to hit the white car first because the white car was the second vehicle behind the stop sign. Now if the 2010 Dodge Challenger had the technology to drive sideways, you might have a point.

Look at all that room beside the cars. Reverse, then forward. Just like pulling out of a parallel parking spot.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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It shows that the witnesses were very biased from the start. So if you consider witness accounts then you have to consider that as well.
Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable even when there is no bias.
 
Old 08-24-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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He would have had to hit the white car first because the white car was the second vehicle behind the stop sign. Now if the 2010 Dodge Challenger had the technology to drive sideways, you might have a point.

Which one is Heather? The one in teal?
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