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Exactly, Ted Nugent can't even be called a one hit wonder because he never had a hit. I have only heard a couple of his songs and was less than impressed. Nugent's music is bottom tier generic arena rock - like a 70s version of Nickelback. His music and stage persona remind me a lot of the worst bands from the 80s glam rock era like Winger or Warrant.
I don't like Ted Nugent as a person but, I do believe that Cat Scratch Fever was pretty popular. Maybe not a "pop" hit due to its subject matter, but certainly a pretty big 70s hit for rock fans. Stranglehold is pretty good too.
But I don't think he's had enough across the board talent/recognition to garner a Hall of Fame induction.
This guy was inducted into the hall of fame and supports guns. So was Eric Clapton. What's the common variable these guys have that Nugent doesn't have.
Because the bass player of Nirvana that couldn't even keep time and never wrote a tune is more talented than the Nuge good grief
Honestly, old ted is a better player than clapton too. Clapton is far more influential and is more talented because of his song writing, but if you sat them down next to each other the Nuge is a better player hands down. He's a better singer too despite losing his high end probably 20 years ago.
I don't like Ted Nugent as a person but, I do believe that Cat Scratch Fever was pretty popular. Maybe not a "pop" hit due to its subject matter, but certainly a pretty big 70s hit for rock fans. Stranglehold is pretty good too.
But I don't think he's had enough across the board talent/recognition to garner a Hall of Fame induction.
I will have to defer to someone with contemporaneous knowledge of the 70s as to the status of Nugent in his heyday. All I know of Nugent's music is the small bit I have heard on classic rock radio stations and movie soundtracks. He seems like the type of aging act that can earn a decent living playing interstate casinos or county fairs but was never anything special. I have never met a fan, even the people I know that love 70s rock don't listen to Ted Nugent.
Because the bass player of Nirvana that couldn't even keep time and never wrote a tune is more talented than the Nuge good grief
Honestly, old ted is a better player than clapton too. Clapton is far more influential and is more talented because of his song writing, but if you sat them down next to each other the Nuge is a better player hands down. He's a better singer too despite losing his high end probably 20 years ago.
The bass player from Nirvana is a pro gun advocate as is Clapton.
Why didn't their public support for guns stop them from getting inducted?
I'm sure Nugent is a better guitar player than Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols, but the Pistols were way way way more influential than Nugent can ever hope to be.
Because the bass player of Nirvana that couldn't even keep time and never wrote a tune is more talented than the Nuge good grief
Honestly, old ted is a better player than clapton too. Clapton is far more influential and is more talented because of his song writing, but if you sat them down next to each other the Nuge is a better player hands down. He's a better singer too despite losing his high end probably 20 years ago.
Nugent is a better player than Eric Clapton? And you think Clapton gets over because of his songwriting?
That's an extraordinary assertion.
In Jimi's lifetime, Clapton was pretty much seen as his only competition. That's ridiculous of course because Page, Beck, Guy, Allman, Townsend, Richards and many others were Jimi's contemporaries and they were all solid guitarists. Not to mention a plethora of jazz and Blues guitarists than can play circles around the average rock guitarist.
Do you realize how many modern day guitarists cite Clapton as their main inspiration? None will cite Ted as their inspiration. Moreover, Clapton didn't really become a songwriter of note until much later in his career. And yeah, Clapton is a better singer than Ted even though Clapton has never been a great singer. That's probably why Jack Bruce did nearly all the singing in Cream.
Come on...you can't put Ted and Clapton on the same level. No way.
Nugent is a better player than Eric Clapton? And you think Clapton gets over because of his songwriting?
That's an extraordinary assertion.
In Jimi's lifetime, Clapton was pretty much seen as his only competition. That's ridiculous of course because Page, Beck, Guy, Allman, Townsend, Richards and many others were Jimi's contemporaries and they were all solid guitarists. Not to mention a plethora of jazz and Blues guitarists than can play circles around the average rock guitarist.
Do you realize how many modern day guitarists cite Clapton as their main inspiration? None will cite Ted as their inspiration. Moreover, Clapton didn't really become a songwriter of note until much later in his career. And yeah, Clapton is a better singer than Ted even though Clapton has never been a great singer. That's probably why Jack Bruce did nearly all the singing in Cream.
Come on...you can't put Ted and Clapton on the same level. No way.
When someone has compared Clapton to Nugent then you know the conversation has jumped the shark.
Nugent is a better player than Eric Clapton? And you think Clapton gets over because of his songwriting?
That's an extraordinary assertion.
In Jimi's lifetime, Clapton was pretty much seen as his only competition. That's ridiculous of course because Page, Beck, Guy, Allman, Townsend, Richards and many others were Jimi's contemporaries and they were all solid guitarists. Not to mention a plethora of jazz and Blues guitarists than can play circles around the average rock guitarist.
Do you realize how many modern day guitarists cite Clapton as their main inspiration? None will cite Ted as their inspiration. Moreover, Clapton didn't really become a songwriter of note until much later in his career. And yeah, Clapton is a better singer than Ted even though Clapton has never been a great singer. That's probably why Jack Bruce did nearly all the singing in Cream.
Come on...you can't put Ted and Clapton on the same level. No way.
Yes, he's a better player physically. There is nothing that Eric clapton can do on a guitar that Ted Nugent couldn't, but there are gobs of things that Nuge can do that Clapton couldn't.
In the grand scheme of things that is meaningless because unless you're someone like Buddy Rich or Yngwie Malmsteen, pure playing ability will get you nowhere outside of playing cover tunes at an Elks Club. Creativity is what makes a musician really great. It's what makes someone like Jimi Hedrix, Carlos Santana or Jimmy Page the legends they are.
Nuge is more like Angus Young, Brian Setzer, or slash in that he's not a groundbreaking musician. He's just a really good player that improved on existing styles. He's not the first, and he won't be the last, but just because you don't like someone or care for their music doesn't mean they're not great. That is probably the #1 reason it's so hard to talk music with people that don't actually play. Most casual music fans don't have the ability to understand what's difficult and what isn't with an unbiased opinion. The music or musicians they like are are who they feel are great unlike those that actually play which typically have great respect for music they don't even care for solely on talent. This thread is a perfect example of that. Hell, I don't even like Ted's music, and I really don't care for him personally. I just have respect for his playing abilities, and I recognize his success. Is he the fist person I would put into the Rock and Role Hall of Fame? Absolutely not. Is he as worthy as many of the artist allready inducted? I believe so, but that is my opinion.
The rock and roll hall of fame is a joke and most people in the industry know it is. Was listening to an interview of Eddie Trunk and another guy talking about it.
It's a cronyism deal at best. Same goes with the Oscars, it's all a joke.
That said I find Ten Nugent to beyond repugnant but he's probably right though.
Yes, he's a better player physically. There is nothing that Eric clapton can do on a guitar that Ted Nugent couldn't, but there are gobs of things that Nuge can do that Clapton couldn't.
In the grand scheme of things that is meaningless because unless you're someone like Buddy Rich or Yngwie Malmsteen, pure playing ability will get you nowhere outside of playing cover tunes at an Elks Club. Creativity is what makes a musician really great. It's what makes someone like Jimi Hedrix, Carlos Santana or Jimmy Page the legends they are.
Nuge is more like Angus Young, Brian Setzer, or slash in that he's not a groundbreaking musician. He's just a really good player that improved on existing styles. He's not the first, and he won't be the last, but just because you don't like someone or care for their music doesn't mean they're not great. That is probably the #1 reason it's so hard to talk music with people that don't actually play. Most casual music fans don't have the ability to understand what's difficult and what isn't with an unbiased opinion. The music or musicians they like are are who they feel are great unlike those that actually play which typically have great respect for music they don't even care for solely on talent. This thread is a perfect example of that. Hell, I don't even like Ted's music, and I really don't care for him personally. I just have respect for his playing abilities, and I recognize his success. Is he the fist person I would put into the Rock and Role Hall of Fame? Absolutely not. Is he as worthy as many of the artist allready inducted? I believe so, but that is my opinion.
I've never liked highly technical players like Malmsteen anyway (not to mention that I hate neo classical gibberish). I've seen him live twice. Great player, but playing fast and lots of shredding doesn't move me. Same for Satriani, Vai, Johnson, or May...although I've heard Brian May do solos that can bring you to tears.
For me, it comes down to blues. Period, end of story. If I can't hear or feel blues in your playing, forget it. That's why I favor guys like Clapton, Guy, Sumlin, Santana, King (all 3...BB, Freddie and Albert), Vaughan, and Hendrix over just about everyone else.
I've seen a gazillion rock guitarists in concert, but not a one of them has moved me as much as George Benson did at a concert I saw in LA back in the late 80's. Maaaaaaan...that guy can flat out play. And he can sing better than any guitarist who's ever lived IMO. He ripped through that show like a tornado, and he brought the house down with "Love Ballad" as his finale. My buddies and I walked away in total shock. We weren't expecting that.
That's a guy who if anyone ever talks about great guitarists, his name would never come up with most rock types.
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good grief 
