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Old 03-13-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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Yep - get the scums off the streets and out of society.

More jails are a good thing
How far can this go, without endangering the economy and taxpayers?

Could it be that the real issues are not adressed? WHY people even get the idea to do the crimes?
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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How far can this go, without endangering the economy and taxpayers?

Could it be that the real issues are not adressed? WHY people even get the idea to do the crimes?
I dont want to waste a dollar on understanding a criminals motivation. Its simple. They don't care about anyone but themselves and they think laws are for the sheep. Only idiots work for a living.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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How far can this go, without endangering the economy and taxpayers?

Could it be that the real issues are not adressed? WHY people even get the idea to do the crimes?
Lets see: they were raised wrong. Illegal immigrants and gangs. Greed. Laziness.

Those who rape kids should be executed.

People who steal from others should lose a hand.

We have lots of land here in the West to keep the bad people away from society
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:03 PM
 
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I dont want to waste a dollar on understanding a criminals motivation. Its simple. They don't care about anyone but themselves and they think laws are for the sheep. Only idiots work for a living.
Again, is it viable economically at all?

And then, don't you think that there are SOME societal reasons which, at least in part, cause crime? And that adressing these could help?
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Again, is it viable economically at all?

And then, don't you think that there are SOME societal reasons which, at least in part, cause crime? And that adressing these could help?
Let's say you are right - that there are some "societal reasons". How long will it take to correct "society" - 2 / 3 / 4 decades?

How about today? Crimes, robbery, rapes, murders, fraud etc are happening today.

What is your suggestion about what we should do with todays criminals?

And, do try to be precise in your response
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So ask yourself..how do other countries with low crime deal with crime when it's committed ?

They deal with it directly and swiftly. That's why they have low crime. Those countries uphold the law to the letter of the law and don't beat around the bush with trying to "understand" or "educate" or "reform".
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Again, is it viable economically at all?

And then, don't you think that there are SOME societal reasons which, at least in part, cause crime? And that adressing these could help?
Such as? I am a bit sick of the blame society game.
Joe raped that woman because he is scum.
Ted molested that boy because ted is scum.
Tom robbed that store and shot the owner because he is???? Scum...
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Boise
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So ask yourself..how do other countries with low crime deal with crime when it's committed ?

They deal with it directly and swiftly. That's why they have low crime. Those countries uphold the law to the letter of the law and don't beat around the bush with trying to "understand" or "educate" or "reform".
Most of those nations that deal with crime with an iron fist are third-world.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Such as? I am a bit sick of the blame society game.
Joe raped that woman because he is scum.
Ted molested that boy because ted is scum.
Tom robbed that store and shot the owner because he is???? Scum...
No one is saying violent sex offenders should not be in jail. Or somebody who shot another person.

But, you can reform a theif. Cutting off their hands would make them a burden on society. Keeping him in jail for a limited time and teaching him a trade is cheaper than releasing him after keeping him locked up with nothing to do. Then upon release they still have no skills and will resort back to a life of crime because is the only way they can make a livelyhood. So they end up back in jails, wasting more tax money, instead of working a job they learned while locked up, and becoming self sufficiant.

If you commit a violent crime, like rape, murder, child molestation, etc. Then they should be locked up for life.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Pa
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No one is saying violent sex offenders should not be in jail. Or somebody who shot another person.
Whats to understand? That is my question. How is it society's fault? Easy solutions and 100% no repeats. The needle, 45 acp to the head, gas chamber.
Why lock them up for life, they become a life long burden. Final solution execute them for being who and what they are. Violent criminals.
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