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Any of these wars could of been the end of us all.
My question still stands if you please. One other thing we do tend to help each out when there is a major disaster. Why?
See my previous answer
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In any case, we naturally fear death/destruction. It's part of the cycle. Sometimes we inevitably come to our senses and realize we wanted nothing more than to survive in the first place and briefly come together (think of post twin towers), but then as the cycle moves on, it returns to fracture.
Humans can NOT operate in a Utopia. Our nature does not allow it. If we are given everything, even it if is "perfect" we do not value it. Things must be earned, or we feel useless. So struggle, strife, unhappiness, happiness, etc are hear to stay.
The quest by the Liberal/Progressive for a Utopia is extremely damaging to society. It has created a ruling class of elite, and furthered control, and domination by the few. Tyranny is on the rise in America, and Europe and has been since WWII. The useful idiots on the left believe they are being altruistic, when in reality they are creating another slave state.
Man this OP has been brainwashed by the alt right cult like nobody's business.
Do you have any thoughts to add to the discussion? Or are you just here to express your hate for the right? In any case, you're kinda proving my point.
Look at history. There was never a perfectly smooth-functioning societal utopia... and there NEVER will be. Period.
Especially in this day and (information) age. No populace is going to come together and agree in perfect harmony. There will always be a division. There will ALWAYS be resistance.
We look at division as something bad, but unless it completely tears the fabric of society, or kills people, division is a necessary evil within any people group.
The closest thing you can get to complete agreement and uniformity would be a forced totalitarian regime like North Korea. But then people suffer, fear, and die.
The question we should be asking is: "How can we function together under the context of our differences," rather than, "How can I win the others to my side" or worse, "How can I defeat the other side."
And that's it. That's the cycle that will always be repeated until the world stops ticking. We'll either blow ourselves up (and destruction is always easier than construction) or wise up. This is life.
That's a nice armchair philosophy. Ask the German people how that worked out for them when they sat back and allowed the divisions that eventual led to the Third Reich and the Nazis. There is a reason why there are strong hate speech laws in Germany and France and other European countries, imposed after WWII. They saw how Hitler came to power and they won't let that happen again.
There is no tidy solution to this problem - democracies are inherently unstable. Read up on Popper's Paradox of Tolerance to get some perspective on this. Having a culture that is based on "How can we function together under the context of our differences" may very well lead to an extremist group taking advantage of that permissiveness in order to destroy the system and gain control. It's what happened in Germany. It is unlikely it would go that far here in the USA but it is not impossible.
Having a culture that is based on "How can we function together under the context of our differences" may very well lead to an extremist group taking advantage of that permissiveness in order to destroy the system and gain control.
That's a nice armchair philosophy. Ask the German people how that worked out for them when they sat back and allowed the divisions that eventual led to the Third Reich and the Nazis. There is a reason why there are strong hate speech laws in Germany and France and other European countries, imposed after WWII. They saw how Hitler came to power and they won't let that happen again.
There is no tidy solution to this problem - democracies are inherently unstable. Read up on Popper's Paradox of Tolerance to get some perspective on this. Having a culture that is based on "How can we function together under the context of our differences" may very well lead to an extremist group taking advantage of that permissiveness in order to destroy the system and gain control. It's what happened in Germany. It is unlikely it would go that far here in the USA but it is not impossible.
Much, if not most of that had to do with the propaganda machine that Germany was running.
America has its own propaganda machine now. It is not controlled by right- wing operatives, but by left wing operatives.
The news in America is roughly 50% propaganda/advertising, 25% smoke and mirrors and 25%(at the most) of actual useful news.
Propaganda runs the lives of the common uninformed and blind-eyed public, not facts, history and true critical and objective thought. Much like what happened to Germany.
Look at history. There was never a perfectly smooth-functioning societal utopia... and there NEVER will be. Period.
Especially in this day and (information) age. No populace is going to come together and agree in perfect harmony. There will always be a division. There will ALWAYS be resistance.
We look at division as something bad, but unless it completely tears the fabric of society, or kills people, division is a necessary evil within any people group.
The closest thing you can get to complete agreement and uniformity would be a forced totalitarian regime like North Korea. But then people suffer, fear, and die.
The question we should be asking is: "How can we function together under the context of our differences," rather than, "How can I win the others to my side" or worse, "How can I defeat the other side."
And that's it. That's the cycle that will always be repeated until the world stops ticking. We'll either blow ourselves up (and destruction is always easier than construction) or wise up. This is life.
What's funny is that the truth is this. Even if the deranged Leftists got their utopia it wouldn't last. The HAVE to be aggrieved about something and would soon start to eat each other and it would quickly become a dystopia.
Look at history. There was never a perfectly smooth-functioning societal utopia... and there NEVER will be. Period.
Especially in this day and (information) age. No populace is going to come together and agree in perfect harmony. There will always be a division. There will ALWAYS be resistance.
We look at division as something bad, but unless it completely tears the fabric of society, or kills people, division is a necessary evil within any people group.
The closest thing you can get to complete agreement and uniformity would be a forced totalitarian regime like North Korea. But then people suffer, fear, and die.
The question we should be asking is: "How can we function together under the context of our differences," rather than, "How can I win the others to my side" or worse, "How can I defeat the other side."
And that's it. That's the cycle that will always be repeated until the world stops ticking. We'll either blow ourselves up (and destruction is always easier than construction) or wise up. This is life.
So you want people divided.....you are part of the problem. Own it.
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