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Old 08-18-2017, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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I am curious where people stand on censorship. Not in any specific example, but as a general rule. Do you think it is okay to use it often?? Whenever there is a real risk of someone being offended?? Do you think it should almost never be used?? How important is free speech and allowing people to say what's on their minds?
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Free speech is very important but people also need to realize just what free speech is all about and that there could be very bad consequences for your spouting off.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Free speech is very important but people also need to realize just what free speech is all about and that there could be very bad consequences for your spouting off.
You support violence?
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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I am curious where people stand on censorship. Not in any specific example, but as a general rule. Do you think it is okay to use it often?? Whenever there is a real risk of someone being offended?? Do you think it should almost never be used?? How important is free speech and allowing people to say what's on their minds?
The problem is that most of the time I see people whining about free speech and censorship anymore it involves an incident between two private parties which are not covered by those concepts.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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As long as the free-speech in question does not cross the line into being illegal, yes, I do support it for all types of speech, even so-called hate-speech.

Censorship, in this day and age, is very badly wanted by a certain element in-order to silence the opposition.

Remember, governments are made-up of people who have their own little agendas.....many times that does not include the best-interests of the nation or freedom in general.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I am curious where people stand on censorship. Not in any specific example, but as a general rule. Do you think it is okay to use it often?? Whenever there is a real risk of someone being offended?? Do you think it should almost never be used?? How important is free speech and allowing people to say what's on their minds?
There is no censorship in a truly free society.

There are legitimate boundaries though; Those who incite violence, treason, call to overthrow the government should pay a price for it.

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As long as the free-speech in question does not cross the line into being illegal, yes, I do support it for all types of speech, even so-called hate-speech.

Censorship, in this day and age, is very badly wanted by a certain element in-order to silence the opposition.

Remember, governments are made-up of people who have their own little agendas.....many times that does not include the best-interests of the nation or freedom in general.
THIS ^^^^




I would add: just as there should be no censorship, the government should also be kept in check from becoming tyrannical. We're witnessing one party heading that way.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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You support violence?
Ooooooh and Dbones goes in with the "questioning strawman" tactic...a bold opener in what is sure to be a debate for the ages between some of the forums most thoughtful and intelligent posters.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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The problem is that most of the time I see people whining about free speech and censorship anymore it involves an incident between two private parties which are not covered by those concepts.
Basically. IDK how many times I have seen that particular dumba$$ falsehood explicitly invoked or implied... probably more times than I have seen people actually get it correct.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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Ooooooh and Dbones goes in with the "questioning strawman" tactic...a bold opener in what is sure to be a debate for the ages between some of the forums most thoughtful and intelligent posters.
It's a valid question. I wanted clarification from that poster. What consequences were they speaking of since that seems to be the form of repercussions and consequences being dished out lately when certain groups find out a certain speaker is coming to town, etc.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Free speech is very important but people also need to realize just what free speech is all about and that there could be very bad consequences for your spouting off.
Of course, you are correct.
But if someone does NOT "realize what free speech is all about", should we shut them up??
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