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Old 08-18-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Il
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My thoughts are we have a Constitution that lays this all out and a HIGH Court that is the Ultimate Decider on these issues. I would trust no other "decider" to say who can and can not speak freely.

This is really fundamental stuff, I'm surprised you never learned this in school ..... even my 10 old grandson knows this.


I'm just going to say this once. It doesn't appear that you read my entire post. Not all speech is protected by the constitution (I know that may not be considered fundamental stuff).

 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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The Left showed up armed to fight them as the left's be doing all around the country to various other more mainstream conservative rallies.

You are the one promoting a false bizarre world viewpoint.
And the Nazi thugs were not armed? Only in reich-wing bizarro world.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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The demographic change policies are not discussed in mainstream media because it is deemed "racist" to not demographically change historical white majority nations. Multiculturalism and diversity is not discussed because that's "racist". Only the alt-right discusses it.
Only the alt-right discusses it because it is a non-issue to everyone else.

And again, we have already been discussing immigration policy. The difference lies between "What should our immigration policy be?" and a President saying, "All Mexicans are criminals".

Do you see how the latter leads to what we have happening right now?

It isn't the topic, but the speech used to discuss it.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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I can't see any redeeming qualities in these groups, and if they support murdering other groups of people they dislike, it seems like a proper reason to ban their right to speak publicly about this. People do not have the right to incite violence and murder in this country, so it would seem that this would apply to the KKK and neo Nazis. Thoughts?
Yes, of course they should be allowed free speech.

You do understand that there's a difference between speech and actions, right?

Now I have a question for you - should BLM be allowed free speech, given they've called for the execution of police officers?
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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There is only one area I promote the curtailment of free speech. The endlessly repetitive threads posted here.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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Of course they should. The First Amendment protects unpopular speech.
Exactly. Because popular speech doesn't exactly need protecting.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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There is no 'redeeming quality' requirement for free speech in our Democratic Republic. Read the first amendment.
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I can't see any redeeming qualities in these groups, and if they support murdering other groups of people they dislike, it seems like a proper reason to ban their right to speak publicly about this. People do not have the right to incite violence and murder in this country, so it would seem that this would apply to the KKK and neo Nazis. Thoughts?
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Only the alt-right discusses it because it is a non-issue to everyone else.

And again, we have already been discussing immigration policy. The difference lies between "What should our immigration policy be?" and a President saying, "All Mexicans are criminals".

Do you see how the latter leads to what we have happening right now?

It isn't the topic, but the speech used to discuss it.
No it's not, that's why the establishment works to keep a lid on it by not talking about it and not allowing anyone else to talk about it. You just lied about what the President said about Mexico, but I guess no one can tell the truth about the effects of mass immigration and demographic change.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I say let them have their free speech.

But...the key is....STOP GIVING THEM ATTENTION.


The media have been blowing up the Charlottesville story. If not for that, nobody would care and they would do their own thing.

But when we start censoring things we don't like, we become thought police. I don't like that at all.

The best thing to do? Ignore those people. Let them do their thing. Beating them up and censoring them will make things worse.
It worked for years.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Ok. Enough of this. It's either socialist pukes pushing agendas or it's people so blind as to what is going on that they won't see it until it's too late.

I don't care what you think of me or my politics. I don't care if you're on the right or the left. If you are not insane, if you are not a socialist, if you are not interested in communists, if you are sick of the violence, if you are sick of "this country being divided", no matter who you want to blame it all on, I don't care, all I ask is that everyone read this book:

And Not A Shot Was Fired by Jan Kozak


That's all I ask. Just read it. Go get it from the library, go buy it, if you can find it online, get it....whatever.

Left and Right: If you are not part of antifa, if you are not part of some white supremacy group, if you are in the middle, and you are legit not understanding wth is going on, read that book.

This will give you some insight in to what the book is about:

https://www.scribd.com/document/6852...-Shot-is-Fired

If you really want to know what is going on, you will figure it out...your blood will freeze if you read that book because you will then see what is going on right now in this country.

If you never care to listen to/read a thing I have said or will say, at least listen to/read this post. Get this book. Read this book. You will finally get it.
Can you at least give an idea of what it is you mean?
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