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Old 09-18-2017, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Objective Detective View Post
Capitalism drives innovation, not liberal socialism. The sad thing is that many people that read these boards think that your uninformed rhetoric is true. In your fantasy world money and capital must grow on trees and not come from work.
Real capitalism is based on productive work, not socialism. You are wrong again and that isn't fake news like you believe. Are you ever factually correct about anything? How much does Soros pay you to post lies?

Modern liberalism is simply the art of capitalizing on dysfunctional people who can't even manage their own lives and family but think they know what best for everyone in the country. Totally absurd.
Instead of just calling me "wrong" why not show numbers which dispute my claims?

What do I say that isn't true?

I lived in WV and TN in the 70's - lots of outhouses (hookworm). Some of the outhouses were actually suspended over streams.

2/3 of GDP in the US comes from counties that voted for Clinton.

Most of the modern technologies doing actual good for the USA come from Silicon Valley, Boston and even NYC (to a lesser degree). I have gotten lost in areas outside Boston with vast buildings....ALL of them involved in "life sciences" - these miracles that are going to heelp us all (many are already doing so).

I have been intimately involved online since 1986 and before that via Ham Radio. There was hardly such a thing as "conservative online media" until some folks figured out you could lie and there was no repercussions for it. Then the billionaires financed extensive sites.

Again - productive work is largely measure by GDP. Liberals and Educated people produce more of it. Period.

You are debating a point which has been clear since the beginning of recorded history. The educated - even among the Egyptians - created their math, science and buildings.

Money is printed. It comes from a printing press. It doesn't come from work. Value comes from proper effort - and we use money as a trading mechanism and as a "barometer" to measure whether we are creating value.

BUT - why do we do all of this? We do it for the "General Welfare and Happiness of the People". That is what you call Socialism and what I call Civilizations.

Readers here can draw their own conclusions. However, other than some conceptual point, I'd be interested in a single fact I laid out which you can dispute. Heck, even 150+ years ago educated Americans were wondering why "liberal" states like MA. had so much more value than "conservative" ones. I'd highly suggest that you read some informative (cheap or free) books by Frederick Law Olmsted (designer of Central Park, the Chicago Exposition and much more) regarding his travels in the South and in Texas.

Here are a couple for you.

99 cents in the Kindle Versions. Read them and then we will talk about who produces value.
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Old 09-18-2017, 03:13 PM
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Taratova View Post
The healing process after the Civil War was to bring the country back together. Erecting monuments of both sides helped the healing process knowing both sides lost many lives and had to go on as one nation.

Now the liberal left is opening up wounds that have healed.

The liberals are now implying that the southern people and keeping their statues are a sign of racism and that their statues must come down. The left are calling the southern people traitors as if they are still the enemy. This is dangerous to hear this.

They are now dividing the country again to demand these statues are to be removed. It is as if they believe the south is racist yet the history of this country has long moved on.

The left is stirring up any hate they can through dividing us.. Those self righteous people who think they are fighting a cause are creating hate and division.. these so called do gooders are ratcheting it up and it will not be good for our nation.
Thread fail.

Most of the Confederate monuments are build during the civil rights era, NOT reconstruction.
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