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Old 08-20-2017, 01:02 AM
 
Location: USA
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Trump will not get anything done because he doesn't know how to form alliances or cooperate with people, and as of right now no one in Washington owes him any favors and he's not earning himself any.
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:12 AM
 
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Given what's happening right now, I thought this was a fair question.

Fact is, I never understood why people believed that "we need a businessman in the White House." The notion is ridiculous on its face. The job of a President is a job for a politician, not an MBA. It's the highest political job in the world. Why would anyone believe that someone with no political experience is necessarily qualified for that job?

Moreover, given the culture of American business at Trump's level (the culture of avarice at all costs), what's so appealing to people about American Businessmen? We saw what happened in 2008-2009 when they nearly ran the country completely off the rails, and yet, people think that these are the people that should be running the country?

Trump is something of a real estate savant....he never once showed that he had knowledge of any other topic. Why? Because he doesn't know anything else. He's got enough money to fly around the world, but he's not worldly by any stretch. Our president should be a worldly man or woman since they'd be the most powerful politician on the planet.

Yet, I STILL hear people saying that we need a businessman in office.


what's wrong in being a businessman? what was Obama's qualifications for President, Chicago community organizer?

you blame what happened in 200-2009 on just the private sector not the government?......the private sector is what moves the economy NOT the government.

and you think Hillary Clinton was a "wordly" woman? she has experience selling the country out to the highest bidder to foreigners but that's doesn't make it good for us.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: 2 blocks from bay in L.I, NY
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Default No, their lack of cooperation can't be blamed for this even though I don't like Repub Congress

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The two best posts on this thread, and they say it all. Thank you, guys. Politicians will just let you down. People who have been successful in business and know how to run a business can actually make for better government. What President Trump needs now, more than anything, is full cooperation and support from what's supposed to be a Republican-led Congress.
Trump is too childish and immature to be of any hope, can't you see that by now? He has not gotten better but worse. His behavior CANNOT be blamed on lack of cooperation from the Republican led congress. Trumps silliness is no one's fault but his own. Viciously mocking and attacking even his own govt appointees in his tweets shows he's his own worst enemy. He shows himself to be a complete idiot the majority of the time by his tweets. When speaking, his inability to hold a discussion in a mature and intelligent manner, even taking into account that he's incapable of using a more sophisticated vocabulary, is proof that he will go down in history as the worst president of this country, ever.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: 2 blocks from bay in L.I, NY
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Nonsense.

The banks made those loans on their own. They were not forced to come up with those products. They got inventive and greedy.

The whole "the government made them do it" is a copout, and a bald faced lie. What people who advance this idea are trying to do is blame minorities in a sneaky and circuitous way for the meltdown. That's why Repubs were screaming about the Community Reinvestment Act ONLY AFTER the banks crashed, but while the banks were making a killing, they wanted the government to leave the banks alone. They said nothing about the CRA while the getting was good.

I know the game. Community Reinvestment Act is a code word for minorities, and more pointedly, African Americans.
Excellent post!
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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I would have voted for Mr Tillerson-- that's a businessman-- maybe right idea-- but you got a faux deal-- I even think the mooch is told to keep his mouth clean would have had better way of handling things
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: 2 blocks from bay in L.I, NY
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what's wrong in being a businessman? what was Obama's qualifications for President, Chicago community organizer?
Obama's qualifications was being a US Senator. If you do your homework and stop repeating Hannity-speak, you'd know that he was an US Senator before becoming POTUS. People like you who continue to refer to Obama as community organizer demonstrate a disingenuousness concern over his supposed lack of experience but it really is a ruse to cover your own racism. When there were only White presidents, the fact that their early years were spent working humble low paying jobs such as stable boy (before automobiles were invented), stocker at the local dry goods store, throwing newspapers, and so forth was looked at favorably as credited for helping to make this great person noble.

Now that we've had a Black president, the fact that part of his early working years as a community organizer helping poor Black people is looked at negatively by racists who are narcissists by nature (or nurture). If it's not solely or primarily benefitting them, they will belittle it and call it evil. They can't let it go that an educated BM dedicated himself to helping poor Black people so they continue their attempts to belittle his many career achievements by only referring to ONE of the jobs that he did in his early adult working years. Case in point that it's due to racism, why don't they refer to him as the college prof with no experience who became POTUS? Or the attorney with no experience who became POTUS?

It was the community organizing that had the most impact on how Obama begin to view the world and the need to give back and help others/pay it forward. It broaden his compassion for people in general which is one of the traits which served him very well when he became POTUS.
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Obama's qualifications was being a US Senator. If you do your homework and stop repeating Hannity-speak, you'd know that he was an US Senator before becoming POTUS. People like you who continue to refer to Obama as community organizer demonstrate a disingenuousness concern over his supposed lack of experience but it really is a ruse to cover your own racism. When there were only White presidents, the fact that their early years were spent working humble low paying jobs such as stable boy (before automobiles were invented), stocker at the local dry goods store, throwing newspapers, and so forth was looked at favorably as credited for helping to make this great person noble.

Now that we've had a Black president, the fact that part of his early working years as a community organizer helping poor Black people is looked at negatively by racists who are narcissists by nature (or nurture). If it's not solely or primarily benefitting them, they will belittle it and call it evil. They can't let it go that an educated BM dedicated himself to helping poor Black people so they continue their attempts to belittle his many career achievements by only referring to ONE of the jobs that he did in his early adult working years. Case in point that it's due to racism, why don't they refer to him as the college prof with no experience who became POTUS? Or the attorney with no experience who became POTUS?

It was the community organizing that had the most impact on how Obama begin to view the world and the need to give back and help others/pay it forward. It broaden his compassion for people in general which is one of the traits which served him very well when he became POTUS.
He did his 8 and left-- keep up-- we are in 2017
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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Putting aside the fact that Trump was a failed businessman, and more famous as a reality TV star, I don't believe for a second people voted for him because they wanted a businessman.

Bloomberg, unlike Trump, is self-made (grew up very working class and had nothing) and is like 100x wealthier and more successful than Trump. He strongly considered running for President. Do you really think even one Trump voter would have voted for Bloomberg? No, they would have called him a "Leftist Libturd Establishment" politician, even though Bloomberg was Republican almost his entire adult life and didn't even enter politics until his 60's.

The "he's a businessman" excuse is to cover for the fact that they voted for him because they saw him on Celebrity Apprentice and loved the way he trashed immigrants, minorities, and women.
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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what's wrong in being a businessman? what was Obama's qualifications for President, Chicago community organizer?

you blame what happened in 200-2009 on just the private sector not the government?......the private sector is what moves the economy NOT the government.

and you think Hillary Clinton was a "wordly" woman? she has experience selling the country out to the highest bidder to foreigners but that's doesn't make it good for us.
Obama was a state senator and US Senator before becoming President, where The Cheeto had NEVER held a political office!
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:15 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Wealth is created by businesses, workers, etc. Not government.

Also, doing more of the same and expecting different results is insanity. So it was time for a meaningful change, instead of electing professional nobodies like Hillary Clinton. And let's hope America isn't foolish enough to ever elect another "community organizer", whatever the hell that is. Professional bums/losers/parasites will never make this country great again.

Businesses exist to produce profits. Since when has that been the purpose of the country?
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