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Old 08-20-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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thought leaders across America all came out against his remarks and thinking on white supremacists and Nazis.
Trump condemned them. What "thought leaders" are you reading who are against that?

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As a Christian, although not a right-wing one, I find this silence embarrassing.
More likely you find it satisfying to elevate yourself by putting down your conservative brethren.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Abortion.
Honestly I don't even understand why so many so-called highly religious people are against abortion. Why this huge concern for the unborn, when once they are born, most of these people are against government, the social safety net, funding for public education, universal healthcare for families, better healthcare for women to reduce America's unacceptably high levels of maternal and infant mortality --- all the things that would help children and families succeed?

Why not put some of that rabid concern for unborn babies and instead focus it on real live children who actually exist in this world? I mean, the level of child neglect and abuse in America is huge: why don't these so-called Christians have concern for the living children, so many of whom are suffering? There was a recent statistic about the high percentage of school-age children whose families are homeless and I know hunger still exists in America, in shockingly high numbers.

Or the Christian right's aversion to gay marriage. How about instead transferring some of that concern for the huge number of LGBT children and teens who are bullied and harassed, and who have a high risk of suicide?

None of theses Evangelicals seem to have much compassion for real living humans.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Honestly I don't even understand why so many so-called highly religious people are against abortion. Why this huge concern for the unborn, when once they are born, most of these people are against government, the social safety net, universal healthcare for families, better healthcare for women to reduce America's unacceptably high levels of maternal and infant mortality --- all the things that would help children and families succeed?

Why not put some of that rabid concern for unborn babies and instead focus it on real live children who actually exist in this world? I mean, the level of child neglect and abuse in America is huge: why don't these so-called Christians have concern for the living children, so many of whom are suffering? There was a recent statistic about the high percentage of school-age children whose families are homeless and I know hunger still exists in America, in shockingly high numbers.
"Thou shall not kill" maybe you were sick that day when it was covered?
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Thou shall not kill" maybe you were sick that day when it was covered?
Aren't a lot of them FOR the death penalty?
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Aren't a lot of them FOR the death penalty?
I dont know, but I never said they were consistent.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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"Thou shall not kill" maybe you were sick that day when it was covered?
Um, all the Evangelicals are for the death penalty, for foreign wars, etc. They're pro-gun. They have no problem with eliminating healthcare, or aid to mothers. They have no issue with the U.S. having the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world.

They don't care about "thou shall not kill".

There's zero mention of abortion in the Bible, and it was never an issue in Christianity until recent times. Nowadays fundamentalists have no problem with killing millions of actual living people, but go crazy about abortion. Once the kid is born, though, you can kill him, apparently.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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"Thou shall not kill" maybe you were sick that day when it was covered?
The U.S. Has The Worst Rate Of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World and the rate is RISING.



Also America has one of the highest rates of infant mortality for developed countries. And one of the reasons for that is our inferior healthcare system. And guess where many poor women get prenatal care? You guessed it: Planned Parenthood.

So maternal deaths, or deaths of existing infants are not of concern to evangelicals just the unborn?


U.S. Has The Worst Rate of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World : NPR
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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Um, all the Evangelicals are for the death penalty, for foreign wars, etc. They're pro-gun. They have no problem with eliminating healthcare, or aid to mothers. They have no issue with the U.S. having the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world.

They don't care about "thou shall not kill".

There's zero mention of abortion in the Bible, and it was never an issue in Christianity until recent times. Nowadays fundamentalists have no problem with killing millions of actual living people, but go crazy about abortion. Once the kid is born, though, you can kill him, apparently.
See post #25

Im not sure what you mean by pro-gun, but supporting the freedom to purchase an inanimate object isnt a mortal sin.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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The U.S. Has The Worst Rate Of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World and the rate is RISING.



Also America has one of the highest rates of infant mortality for developed countries. And one of the reasons for that is our inferior healthcare system.

So maternal deaths, or deaths of existing infants are not of concern to evangelicals just the unborn?


U.S. Has The Worst Rate of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World : NPR
The mothers don't count. The babies, once they exit the womb, don't count. The fundamentalist Christians make that very clear by attempting to shut down clinics that provide healthcare for poor women and supporting slashing funding for food and medical care for children once they're here.

There is no greater hypocrisy on Earth than a fundamentalist Christian.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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In New York City this year,, 1 in 7 elementary school children will be homeless.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/n...k.html?mcubz=0
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