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Old 08-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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We used to have usual suspects talking about Russia collusion everyday. It starts with NYT and Wapo publishing something from unnamed sources. CNN and MSNBC makes big headlines around these articles and invites Clapper and team to make more noise on CNN and MSNBC. Then we see Adam Schiff and Pelosi makes some more noise with reporters. Now narrative has changed to Trump mental capability. It is same actors playing this card with similar screen play.

 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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Has Mueller completed the investigation? Don't think he has. IMO what is happening is what needs to happen. Investigate it fully and if everything is fine - great. If it's not, then Russia knows doing this will not get them the result they were trying for.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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We used to have usual suspects talking about Russia collusion everyday. It starts with NYT and Wapo publishing something from unnamed sources. CNN and MSNBC makes big headlines around these articles and invites Clapper and team to make more noise on CNN and MSNBC. Then we see Adam Schiff and Pelosi makes some more noise with reporters. Now narrative has changed to Trump mental capability. It is same actors playing this card with similar screen play.
Unlike the White House, which is as leaky as a sieve, Mueller runs a tight ship. So unless he is doing things which are visible, like impaneling a grand jury, as he did several weeks ago, we aren't going to hear about what is happening in this investigation until Mueller wants us to. Thus, the news is going to follow things like the latest inanity that Trump has uttered--a neverending source of headlines because he never shuts up--and his stupid rah-rah rallies that also seem to be neverending.

Until or unless Mueller announces he is finished, his investigation goes on. Just becaue he isn't the media ***** that the president is, don't assume there isn't work being done. As much as you wish that to be true.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Has Mueller completed the investigation? Don't think he has. IMO what is happening is what needs to happen. Investigate it fully and if everything is fine - great. If it's not, then Russia knows doing this will not get them the result they were trying for.
Investigate what???? You people can't answer that question.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Unlike the White House, which is as leaky as a sieve, Mueller runs a tight ship. So unless he is doing things which are visible, like impaneling a grand jury, as he did several weeks ago, we aren't going to hear about what is happening in this investigation until Mueller wants us to. Thus, the news is going to follow things like the latest inanity that Trump has uttered--a neverending source of headlines because he never shuts up--and his stupid rah-rah rallies that also seem to be neverending.

Until or unless Mueller announces he is finished, his investigation goes on. Just becaue he isn't the media ***** that the president is, don't assume there isn't work being done. As much as you wish that to be true.
The crime being investigated is not supposed to be a secret, and that is the issue here. Mueller won't even tell us what the hell crime he is investigating, and the idiot DAG didn't bother to specify one.

The special counsel is not supposed to be an open ended vehicle, where a prosecutor simply roots around until he finds a crime, he is supposed to start out with a specific crime that needs to be investigated. We do not even have that here, this entire special counsel is a sham.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Investigate what???? You people can't answer that question.
There is a LOT to take in, have a read, it should keep you busy for a bit.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Investigate what???? You people can't answer that question.
I answered you upthread but of course you ignored that
 
Old 08-23-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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The crime being investigated is not supposed to be a secret, and that is the issue here. Mueller won't even tell us what the hell crime he is investigating, and the idiot DAG didn't bother to specify one.

The special counsel is not supposed to be an open ended vehicle, where a prosecutor simply roots around until he finds a crime, he is supposed to start out with a specific crime that needs to be investigated. We do not even have that here, this entire special counsel is a sham.
Exactly what is your expertise that enables you to define the scope of the the Special Counsel can and can't look at? You must be something special, since you apparently know more than Bob Mueller!

And was Ken Starr familiar with this standard?
 
Old 08-23-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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Investigate what???? You people can't answer that question.
We've been over this countless times. Use the search function.

Or, you could search the internet. There's quite a bit of information there as well.

In any case, it makes no difference that you are clueless about the Russian investigation. Mueller and 16 of the best prosecuting attorneys in the country are on the case.

 
Old 08-23-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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Exactly what is your expertise that enables you to define the scope of the the Special Counsel can and can't look at? You must be something special, since you apparently know more than Bob Mueller!

And was Ken Starr familiar with this standard?
Starr started out with a land deal and two years later ended up with a lie about a consensual blow job.

Mueller has clear directions to investigate anything that turns up here.

Team Trump is trying to claim that certain crimes of his are off limits.

Good luck with that one.
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