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Old 08-25-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Lean Simpson spent 10 hours being interviewed by senate investigators, yeah sure this is going away.









Researcher Behind Unverified Trump Dossier Meets Senate Investigators : NPR
WHOO-hoo!

 
Old 08-25-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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So has the Awan brothers/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz treason story. But tick, tock, tick, tock.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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The Steele Dossier is proving to be completely true, which is very very bad for the Trump crime family. I guarantee you the pee-tape is real too.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So has the Awan brothers/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz treason story. But tick, tock, tick, tock.
Nice deflection, Fox News has been beating that horse for some time wishing and hoping.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Steele Dossier is proving to be completely true, which is very very bad for the Trump crime family. I guarantee you the pee-tape is real too.
Even if not completely verified there is considerable information that appears to be legitimate. People get too hung up on the golden showers but there is considerable more information in that report and it was prepared by a professional.


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“Speaking in confidence to a compatriot,” the talkative Source E “admitted there was a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation between them [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership.” Then this: “The Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to the WikiLeaks platform.” And finally: “In return the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltic and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...stopher-steele
 
Old 08-25-2017, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I answered you upthread but of course you ignored that
No, you didn't answer anything. You did not cite one crime, all you have is what you fools ever have, innuendo, suspicion, false assumptions, hasty conclusions based upon political bias.

All you have is hatred for Trump, you think he is capable of collusion to win an election, so if anyone associated with him talks to a Russian, you just assume skulduggery is afoot.

Sorry, but biased assumptions that you Trump might do something does not justify an independent counsel to dig around and see if your assumptions are true. Prosecution attorney do not look around to see if they can find a crime, they must have a specific crime before they start ruining peoples lives.

What specific crime are you accusing Trump of committing???

Did Trump collude with the Russians to send a phishing email to John Podesta, and leak it to Wikileaks?

Did Trump collude with the Russians to send a phishing email to the DNC, and leak those emails to Wikileaks?

Did Trump collude with the Russians to hack the Illinois state voter database?

What specific crime do you think Trump committed???? You can't name it, because it does not exist.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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No, you didn't answer anything. You did not cite one crime, all you have is what you fools ever have, innuendo, suspicion, false assumptions, hasty conclusions based upon political bias.

All you have is hatred for Trump, you think he is capable of collusion to win an election, so if anyone associated with him talks to a Russian, you just assume skulduggery is afoot.

Sorry, but biased assumptions that you Trump might do something does not justify an independent counsel to dig around and see if your assumptions are true. Prosecution attorney do not look around to see if they can find a crime, they must have a specific crime before they start ruining peoples lives.

What specific crime are you accusing Trump of committing???

Did Trump collude with the Russians to send a phishing email to John Podesta, and leak it to Wikileaks?

Did Trump collude with the Russians to send a phishing email to the DNC, and leak those emails to Wikileaks?

Did Trump collude with the Russians to hack the Illinois state voter database?

What specific crime do you think Trump committed???? You can't name it, because it does not exist.
The initial crimes, incursions into our electoral system, were committed by someone or some set of people, and the investigations must move forward on that. That will never change.

One important question is motive: why did they do it? Was there a Quid Pro Quo?

The Trump campaign has implicated itself, that is very clear. But that could be people taking advantage of Mr Trumps good and trusting nature for their own purposes. In other words, it could be a betrayal of the trust Mr Trump put in his campaign staff.

Personally I wonder why Mr Trump doesn't just let the investigations go forward so our wonderful president can clean out that rat's nest. He is innocent as you say and they have nothing on him, so the investigations headed up by Mueller (a lifelong Republican) and the senate and house committees (headed by lifelong Republicans) are really a safe haven for Mr Trump! He has friends there. He should express his wholehearted support and grab the high moral ground.

I say Mr Trump should join in with the rest of us law abiding citizens and not oppose the investigations, but condemn in the most forceful way the Russian crimes.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The initial crimes, incursions into our electoral system, were committed by someone or some set of people, and the investigations must move forward on that. That will never change.

One important question is motive: why did they do it?
So, you think Trump colluded to send phishing emails to Podesta and the DNC? Or you think Trump colluded to hack state voter databases? Or is your conspiracy case based upon the assumption that Trump is guilty of doing all three?

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The Trump campaign has implicated itself, that is very clear.
Implicated itself where, and how? Be specific, don't give me this crap that Flynn spoke to the ambassador, and that no nothing meeting with the Russian lawyer, who was an operative for the DNC.

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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Personally I wonder why Mr Trump doesn't just let the investigations go forward. He is innocent as you say and they have nothing on him, so the investigations headed up by Mueller (a lifelong Republican) and the senate and house committees (headed by lifelong Republicans) are really a safe haven for Mr Trump! He has friends there. He should express his wholehearted support and grab the high moral ground.

I say Mr Trump should join in with the rest of us and not condemn the investigations, but condemn in the most forceful way the Russian crimes.
There is such a thing as being told of the crimes you are accused of. So, tell me what crime Trump is accused of. And don't give me that vague, all encompassing umbrella crap, that Trump is guilty of "collusion" to influence the election.

Meanwhile we know the DNC and associates of Hilary were working with the Ukraine government to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign, and hiring that "golden showers" British spy to dig up dirt on Trump.

When we have actual collusion with Democrats, you fools cannot be troubled to investigate it. But when there is no collusion with Trump, you just assume there must be some.

If there was an actual crime that occurred, and evidence to suggest Trump took part, I would be happy to investigate him. but you have no not identified a specific crime, and this is an investigation in search of a crime.
 
Old 08-25-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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Tin foil hat time ...
I'm sure you have yours handy. But there was never any credible evidence that Russia (or anyone else) hacked the DNC's servers.

Has Seymour Hersh Debunked 'Russia-gate'? - Antiwar.com Original

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/14/...ts-not-enough/

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Old 08-25-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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I'm sure you have yours handy. But there was never any credible evidence that Russia (or anyone else) hacked the DNC's servers.
Red herring based upon fake reporting from disreputable sources.

There is still the matter of 39 state election commission hackings, oh, and those meetings "that never happened" but now have admittedly happened.

There is also the matter of the GOP platform change insisted upon by Mr Trumps campaign.

You can't fake your way out of this debacle.
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