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Originally Posted by hound 109
Do they teach History in school anymore?
- The Berlin Wall was built by the Russians to KEEP PEOPLE (the east germans) IN & prevent them from escaping Communist East Germany. It wasn't built to maintain the border against parasitic illegal aliens. Not the same thing.
- The Germans wanted unification because they wanted it. (in some ways it was a good idea, and in some ways, not so good). But it was their call. Here in the US, I haven't even seen the left clamoring (yet) with merging the countries of Mexico & the US. So not the same thing.
- I'll agree with you their some "Greedy Wealthy" people who are responsible for our joke of an immigration system (& especially Illegal Immigrants). Plenty of blame to go around.
Comparing the Berlin Wall to Trump's Wall is like comparing a Labrador Retriever to a Banana. Not the same thing.
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I get that, and my point was... "Building a Wall" is not the Answer.
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We... YES, AMERICAN PEOPLE... Destroyed our Industry, and the working poor supported that destruction by fighting against Unions, and
supporting any crazy mad ideal the wealthy floated, as to why and how Outsourcing was Good. People bought that B.S.!!!! Many had a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, either by skin color or thinking their industry or their industry location was secure.. Many supported the "degree riders" pushing the script that Unions workers were over paid, because they came out of 4 yrs of have a party, listen to a lecture and write a report, and being told they were better than others, an they came into the job force, knowing "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE PARTICULAR INDUSTRY' and got pissed off, because Union workers made more than they were paid. They said it and people have selective chosen to forget it.
Yet, Unions fought for wages, so Unions made a concession and said, OK, so we will add a tiered system and new employees won't start at the top, it will take them 3-5 yrs to get top scale. That was not enough for the Degree rider, they RESENTED that the Unions Employee with 10 of more years made more than they did fresh out of University.
Then when the Degree Riders TOOK OVER, they did not want the long term Degree Riders to make more than the Fresh out of College Degree riders, so Now... they pay people based on "Degree label", not what their skill or capability is, only that they have a degree. Since they started that, in the Late 70's and Early 1980's EVERYTHING IN AMERICAN HAS BEEN CRASHING EVERY SINCE. SOME OF THE WORST DECISION EVERY IMAGINABLE HAVE BEEN MADE THAT RESULTED TO COST MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOSS OF JOBS AND DESTROYED COMPANIES. These same degree riders, then set out to Kill any Benefit that Employees had, and then "came OURSOURCING"... Then the Degree Riders started "giving and awarding themselves, Higher Pay, Bonuses even for Failure, and claiming it was in their contract, and they not only "sold off" divisions, they trampled around the world, Chasing down any Foreign Government who would allow them to use their people for slave wage labor.
These dumb arse Degree Riders NEVER Thought that over time, you will have shipped everything away and there won't be any industry or jobs and we won't produce even the things we use and consume.
They did not care... All they cared about was "living like Sitcom TV Characters", and trying to mold themselves after TV Imagery, of "Dallas", and "Melrose Place", "Sex In The City", "Friends" and they wanted their kids to live the Beverly Hills 90210 lifestyle... Everything was about going to the Mall, Going to Fancy Eateries and pursuing elegant home, of which the Previous Generation worked many decades to work their way up to have such things. These Degree Riders wanted everything by the Age of 26, but for sure before they reached the age of 30 and they were willing to do anything to get it.
and etc... By the Mid 1980's everyone wanted a BMW320i and a gram of cocaine, and they were ready to party and to hell with anything that got in the way of that. The the others wanted the Big Benz... and they wanted an Ounce of Cocaine, and as many people as they could find to cater to them as if people were sex toys. This went crazy until herpes epidemic turned into an Aids Epidemic... But everything was still about "Opulence and Excess" - The movie "Wall Street" told them, GREED WAS GOOD, and they went crazy...
Mergers and Acquisition was Destroying Companies by the 100's, Historical brand names crashed like throwing eggs on cement, they did not care, they'd just "import more from China, what the heck.. they were making "fast money" to heck with the working people. They were not needed anymore. University kids went even more crazy, Spring Break had to the the Most Exotic and Toxic Drunken Fest Every Imaginable, "the movie "Animal House" told them, to be as crazy as possible and as lewd as they could imagine and as drugged up and blow money like it was picked from the tree's of companies now selling everything "imported".
No one even wanted an America car of any type, and by 1980's we produced nothing but crap, until eventually the tiny Honda, became the next phase of Honda Accord, and Acura and Honda took over what Chevy and Ford together once had, hell they nearly wiped out Buick, and killed Oldsmobile. Chrysler tried to hang on with the crap-o-K_Car, and it nearly wiped Chrysler out as being a pure crap maker.
It was not until the Crash of 2007-2008, that American Cars gained their stature, and it took a bailout to do so. They would not be around today, if Romney had won Presidency, because he wanted them to Crash, because he made his money, buy buying up crashed companies and selling off the divisions and the inventory and infrastructure of the company. Obama's plan not only saved the Auto Industry it saved the Millions and 10's of million of supply chain jobs that go along with supporting the industry.
China
did not come and take anything from America...
"American People took everything to them" almost begging them to take it"...... Heck, Walmart was even there "threatening companies if they sold to anyone other than Walmart, because Walmart set sights on being the Main Chinese Product Dispenser in America.
The University Degree Riding American's took it there, and bragged about it !!! I say many many of these types bragging about how they "just came back from China and how great of a deal they made. We overlooked Mexico and Central America, and went straight to China.. Now the Chinese have KICKED OUR BUTTS, we now have these same 'Degree Riders, now trying to Ship everything they can to Mexico"... They learned absolutely NOTHING, they are STILL being Trained on the "Seek a Slave Premise"... and in that premise, they don't give a darn about poor whites, or minorities in America, they are only interested in "seeking slave wage labor in Mexico now".....
All he while the Administration is Denigrating Mexico and talking about building wall. , SO... IN A DECADE,
WHEN MEXICO BECOMES THE INDUSTRIAL POWER ON THIS CONTINENT, the Mexicans will have every right to tell American to go to heck!!! And do the same thing the Chinese did and that's buy out the American and own it themselves, and we won't have a choice but to buy what they sell. Already we practically can't even eat vegetable in America unless Central America ships it to us or Mexicans come here and pick it for us.
America will NEVER have a self sustaining program as long as it continue its University Programming of "seek a slave", and the ideals of the Conservative is to "Conserve the Past", so they will continue training more and more based on the Seek a Slave Premise and turning the poor (black and white) within America into indenture servants as being nothing but the "service class" for the wealthy.
Trump can't do anything to change the Trade Imbalance, because it was made by Individual Companies, and the Individuals who went there and made those deals. It was not the Government that Made the Deal... The Government HAD QUOTA'S IN PLACE... It was AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHO WENT THERE AND SET UP COMPANIES AND THEN PAID OFF THE CONGRESSMEN TO NOT CONCERN THEMSELVES ABOUT QUOTA'S, because it was AMERICAN'S who wanted to ship stuff back here Duty Free. These people were so DUMB, they did not know... eventually, The Chinese would take over and claim these companies for themselves, because they knew "American's will sell ANYTHING", so they bought many of these companies away from Americans, and therefore... once they did, they got the "Access to American Markets" that was set up by Americans.
The University Trained focus on promotion of self aggrandizing gluttony
(Ignorance) has destroyed this country.... Through the Crook Training in Finance and Business and Law and Banking. They chase money without regards for consequence, and the brag and boast about how much they made on a deal. But never think how many American Lives they Damaged, or How many American Cities they Destroyed the Economics of, or How many States they Devastated.
I'e worked around these types... and they many are trained never to take Responsibility for Anything, that's where the caption of "Politically Correct" Originated. and the Only way to be Politically Correct, is to "Stand on the Fence".... and go which ever way the winds blows, and their objective is how to balance the act of "staying on the fence". This is the "University Training Model"... when it comes to the Executive Mind. They've even abused and colluded Medicine to that same degree. Where now Doctors won't make the right decisions for the Patient, because the Corporate Entity that Provides Insurance, has told them, Unless its Old Convention, don't do it... they now do ONLY things that actuaries have told them the risk has already been hashed out and cost precedence has already be set.
Blaming Mexicans
is not the answer... When the game was being played before industry was completely shipped away, and
every one of these Degree Riders, were overjoyed to come to work talking about their maid "Maria" and how their gardener and handy man "Jose", as to how great they were. Soon as they shipped all the jobs away and some of these same people could no longer "afford to hire Maria, and Jose...
then and ONLY THEN did they begin crying and whining about "The Mexicans'. They did not think a think about Maria or Jose's kids going to school, or going to the medical clinic, and they did not think anything about them getting County Benefits, simply because it means they could pay them less and they could make it to work every day on time. They all felt they were living like their Grandparents and Great Grand Parents, who had black people during segregation cleaning their houses, raising their kids, and doing their lawns and their handi work.
Even then, they had no thought about "working poor white people" because they were hired by the Independent Contractors, who did all the contractor work that the Middle Class and upper society wanted, so the poor whites were not complaining, because they had many white contractors they could go work for if they did not like one, they'd go to another and there was much work.
Then when these same Degree Riders Results Start Showing Up, of just how much Industry They Had Crashed, and How many Jobs were Lost and How they Destroyed the Middle Class... Only then did some of these Degree Riders Start Loosing their Jobs, and then they started to complain. but Never about the mess they made and they won't take responsibility for the Mess they made... Then they began looking to take the Jobs from the average Oil Field Worker, they wanted to take the Lawn service from the people who had been doing it for the past 100 yrs, which was Blacks, Mexican and Japanese, and Other. They quickly ruled out the black, then they knocked down the Mexican and then hired him back as cheap labor, and the Japanese during the 1970's did not have to do lawns anymore when Japan was the Money Capital, and by then the Older Japanese had sent their kids to school to be professionals in Medicine and Other Specialty Fields, and Japan was the money spinner, so they go easy loans and set up business, and eventually bought out what use to be "white middle class communities" and they built them up, and priced them out of reach of any non professional. The details are many in the cycle and the spin....
Racism went even into overdrive; Directed at Blacks and Mexicans.... and at no time did the Degree Riders take responsibility for any of the Mess they Made, and convinced the poor working whites to buy into, and now the working poor whites and dire poor whites are devastated, as is the blacks and Mexicans, and All people can do now... is try and blame things on Blacks and Mexicans....
Still Afraid to look at the fact that the wealthy and their degree riding kids took down this nation, chasing greed and trying to recreate the Antebellum system, but this time by having Slaves on Foreign Soil...
It BACKFIRED !!!! and they sold anything and everything, and now here we are Owing Places Like China, when 50 Years Ago, we did not Owe China One Penny. Now we are 20 Trillion in Debt.. and that can be attributed to the Looting by the Wealthy, and By the Industry Destruction and The Squandering of Trillions and 10's of Trillions over the past 3 Decades, with these same people, trying to emulate the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's Hollywood Image Idols...... Trying to be Global Jetsetters like the Old Movie Stars to the point of Owing Mansions and Islands, big Yacht's and Private Jets and etc....
And we became a nation just like an "old movie star" that can no longer play the role of "Action Hero"... and cannot get a role even in a B-grade horror movie.
Now... AFTER ALL THAT "Waste" by the wealthy.... We Got Trump running around "begging" as if to be like and Older version of Stallone, asking to star in a remake the "Rambo" Movies. Or as if Arnold at his age, asking to play a new version of "Conan the Barbarian".
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The Wall...Is Mexico Going to Pay For It?
