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Google, on the other hand, has a monopoly on searches, and should not be allowed to censor sites that are legal (e.g. stormfront) as opposed to illegal (e.g. child pornography.)
If Google continues to censor legal sites like stormfront (which it has done), then it will have to be sued and broken up under anti-trust law, or otherwise have its internet privileges revoked.
Liberals might not like it, but freedom of speech and association are still protected under our Constitution. Monopolies on information (or anything else) are not protected, and should not be protected.
Do you understand what a monopoly is? There are dozens of search engines that are direct competitors of Google. Fans of stormfront are free to create their own search engine at anytime.
With "free" I mean without being restrained or posting things we like, bother us etc.
<>Since many local politicians and government employees are lefties, it is a concern for many to become a victim.
I've already been banned from FB and wiki. Will C-D be next? Hope not.
Apparently business except bakers and florists (retail?) are free to run their businesses as they want.
I don't use Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Yahoo, nor Google. I am forced to use Microsoft products, although I don't use their social media, nor search content. I try to minimize how much I am censored. Yes, they can legally do it, but have crossed the line as they have become UTILITIES. I am not saying I want to regulate them, but when ultra left (whacko) Silicon Valley, and Seattle (as well as NYC, and L.A.) can control the national conversation, there is a problem.
With "free" I mean without being restrained or posting things we like, bother us etc.
With Zuckerberg stepping into politics and already being vocal it seems as we have heard that Conservatives are being shut up.
Many of my friends already are using Facebook less and less as many are scared to be targeted
Since many local politicians and government employees are lefties, it is a concern for many to become a victim.
Well, Zuckerberg is stepping down;i.e., he's going to be leaving Facebook, which he created. He's not happy with the way "his creation" is being used. It was never his intent. (So sorry, Zucky boy, that's life)
Also, Pamela Geller has a pending lawsuit against Facebook and Twitter over free speech. My personal beliefs fall in line with Pam Geller on this. I don't think anyone has the right to limit free speech just because they happen to own the site. It was created to be a communication medium. Therefore, at least as I see it, the owner shouldn't have the right to limit what is being posted if it doesn't agree with his politics. We'll see what the courts decide.
Google, on the other hand, has a monopoly on searches, and should not be allowed to censor sites that are legal (e.g. stormfront) as opposed to illegal (e.g. child pornography.)
If Google continues to censor legal sites like stormfront (which it has done), then it will have to be sued and broken up under anti-trust law, or otherwise have its internet privileges revoked.
Liberals might not like it, but freedom of speech and association are still protected under our Constitution. Monopolies on information (or anything else) are not protected, and should not be protected.
You must have never gotten the memo about corporations.
Can we have "freedom of association" for my group of 50 at your house this evening? For Free? Can we say or do things which you don't approve of while using your property?
Now you are getting it.
I'd think "conservatives" would know all this stuff. After all, when civil rights were passed in the 1960's the South responded by closing public parks (sometimes selling them off) and opening private pools and clubs. It worked for many years...and, in fact, is still working today (in terms of private schools, etc.)...
Storm Front members are very welcome to send each other emails. They can stand on a soapbox in certain public places (if no other laws are broken). They can publish books (if a corporation will allow them)....
But corporations are NOT public Free Speech Zones. They are owned by the shareholders and controlled by a BOD and various other officers.
Tell you what. You can make millions...here is a test. Open up a free web site on Apple with your StormFront views. Then, when they shut you down sic the lawyers on them. Let us know when you collect the big time money.
Heck, next thing you will tell us if that Bernie can get into the GOP Convention and take the stage, right? Why not? Oh - yeah - because it not the public square....
Also, Pamela Geller has a pending lawsuit against Facebook and Twitter over free speech. My personal beliefs fall in line with Pam Geller on this. I don't think anyone has the right to limit free speech just because they happen to own the site.
We'll see what the courts decide.
1. Other than fake news, can you point to bonafide statements by Z that he is leaving Facebook?
2. The fact that you seem to look up to haters is troubling...at least to others. I assume not to you, because it probably gives you attention you can't get elsewhere.
3. "I don't think anyone has the right to limit free speech just because they happen to own the site." - honestly, that has to be one of the most ignorant comments I have ever heard online- or maybe even offline.
Take your words and use them for other businesses.....
"I don't think anyone should challenge my right to the mobility of flying overseas just because I don't own an airplane".
" I don't think Breitbart has the right to NOT publish my long article exposing their lies".
"I don't think the local Synagogue should be able to stop me from handing out "Jews will not replace us" signs in the lobby...just because they own it".
Apparently the concept of PROPERTY is foreign to you. Are you a communist? Anarchist? If you are neither then you need to take a crash course on property, which is the basis for the entire modern world.
No need to see what the courts say. They have spoken on this 100's of times.
"Congress shall make no law...." is a lot different than "Tom doesn't you pooping in HIS house in protest of the after-shave you wear".
In fact, corporations are allowed to use force...to remove you from their property.
The only words in your statement which seem true are "I don't think". You should.
I've already been banned from FB and wiki. Will C-D be next? Hope not.
Apparently business except bakers and florists (retail?) are free to run their businesses as they want.
They have terms of service and if you want to be banned they will gladly oblige. Society, at least civil society, makes certain assumptions....the least among those being that people will not abuse others' property.
In addition to the "great unsaids" there are the laws and terms of service.
I have run VERY large web sites and forums for 22 years- some with millions of monthly visitors. We ran into this BS starting about 17 years ago when some "cute" forum user decided that he had the "free speech" right to insert the name of a reproductive organ into every post.
I made a phone call to his local LE and they knocked on his door. He stopped doing it. Quickly.
Now, granted, there are many people with mental and/or other deficiencies who just can't be decent and follow the basic rules asked of them. These people are effectively "stealing" from the site owners in that any time spent dealing with them is a loss of $$$.
But - being as 4-5% of the population are sociopaths and a number of others just plain rude and disrespectful, they are everywhere...and they don't care if they ruin things for others and the site owners, etc.
These days, when you or anyone else can create your own site in a couple minutes, there is little excuse for claiming you cannot express yourself. No one ever promised you "free speech" to X thousands of people on someone elses dime.
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