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Old 08-28-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, and let's not absolve Obama and his lack of response to Katrina. These people seem to have forgotten that. But, everything is Trump's fault! Stupid asses!
Katrina happened in 2005. Obama was inaugurated in 2009 in the midst of the Great Recession where the US was shedding hundreds of thousands of jobs a month.

 
Old 08-28-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Yes, and let's not absolve Obama and his lack of response to Katrina.<>
Yes, a freshman Senator worth his salt should have taken over in a decisive manner.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nah. When you order mandatory evacuation, people rush to their cars and hit the roads like they did when Rita was approaching.
Not when on ramps are controlled. Ask me how I know. Been through several staged evacuations.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I know you all aren't blaming Trump for this.

This is who you blame:

https://twitter.com/SylvesterTurner/...54698316722176

You'll notice that he's "not taking questions" today...like, WHY the hell did you tell people not to evacuate after the governer did?
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, for barrier islands, and some areas directly on the beach. The people evacuate few miles in-land, but there is no mass-exodus where millions of people get in their cars and on the roadways. That would create a very dangerous situation.
I have been on vacation on a barrier island with a permanent population of about 7000, on the Gulf when the evacuation was invoked. As a non-resident, we were amongst the first to cut our vacation short. Then again, most island residents who are employed work on the mainland. It literally took hours to cross the bridge to the mainland and hours more to get to Fort Myers airport for what is normally a 30-minute trip.

This was thousands. Houston is millions. Houston Metro is closing in on 7 million and adding almost 500,000 a year, mostly in Harris Cty.

It is not reasonable to expect millions to evacuate a metro area of this size.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Lets hope there won't be looting, but that typically takes place few days after the storm. Houston is an urban area and it has the same problems as all urban areas. Not everyone is a saint.
Crimes of opportunity happen.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not when on ramps are controlled. Ask me how I know. Been through several staged evacuations.
Staged evacuations tend to remove the element of panic. How do they control the ramps when 3 million motorists hit the roads? Make them wait? Well' then you'll have 3 million cars sitting on the roads, and it would impossible for anyone to get anywhere.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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More likely to blame government while expecting a massive handout and then turn around and blast government for spending.

Texas is one of the greatest recipients of federal funding associated with natural disaster claims.

They pride themselves for having no state income tax and limited zoning regulations.
So what? If I had no income tax, I could afford a lot more insurance to protect me and my stuff so that I wouldn't need a federal handout.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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^floridanative10 the point of this thread is to point out how unprepared Houston and Texas is for events like this.
Our state of Florida is better prepared.
Most hurricanes I've seen blow through Florida do not stall. They blow through really fast and then go into the Gulf and do more damage in Mississippi or Louisiana or Texas. We're the ones with a whole continent behind us, not a 360 mile width of land mass. You have to realize that Florida and Texas are a whole lot different when it comes to hurricanes.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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I know you all aren't blaming Trump for this.

This is who you blame:

https://twitter.com/SylvesterTurner/...54698316722176

You'll notice that he's "not taking questions" today...like, WHY the hell did you tell people not to evacuate after the governer did?
Correct. I hope Turner gets fired. He is indirectly responsible for 5 deaths, IMO. We had many days of knowledge that this would be the worst tropical storm/hurricane in history (it looks like it is), and he told us to stay because he was concerned about traffic
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