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Old 08-27-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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"It is widely understood that Mueller's game is not to get Michael Flynn, per se, but to catch him as a "small fish" in the net in hopes of getting him to flip on the "big fish." The same is true of Paul Manafort, on whom the walls are also closing in.
Mueller now knows, thanks to the Joe Arpaio situation, that the President has no hesitation in using his pardon power to spare friends and supporters (particularly those with dirt, presumably).
So, the special counsel will likely try to find a way to charge this as a state-level crime, ideally in a Democrat-controlled state, so that Trump's pardon power does not apply. Flynn's residence is in North Carolina, where AG Josh Stein (D) might well cooperate and Gov. Roy Cooper (D-NC) is unlikely to issue a state pardon. Another possibility is New York, where meetings might have taken place. If that can be proven, New York AG Eric Schneiderman—who aspires to be Gov. Eric Schneiderman—would undoubtedly be more than happy to prosecute. (Z)

 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think Mueller and his team have some strategies to pursue tRump and his co-conspirators, regardless of tRump's checkers moves in this game of chess.

What'll be entertaining is to see what the GOP does.

 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I think Mueller and his team have some strategies to pursue tRump and his co-conspirators, regardless of tRump's checkers moves in this game of chess.

What'll be entertaining is to see what the GOP does.

Yeah, Mueller is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy smarter than Trump. There is nothing Trump can do that will stop Mueller. One way or the other Trump is in big trouble.

Ken
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Yeah, Mueller is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy smarter than Trump. There is nothing Trump can do that will stop Mueller. One way or the other Trump is in big trouble.

Ken
Whether he has done anything wrong or not?
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Whether he has done anything wrong or not?
He's done something - probably a lot of "somethings".


Ken
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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"It is widely understood that Mueller's game is not to get Michael Flynn, per se, but to catch him as a "small fish" in the net in hopes of getting him to flip on the "big fish." The same is true of Paul Manafort, on whom the walls are also closing in.
Mueller now knows, thanks to the Joe Arpaio situation, that the President has no hesitation in using his pardon power to spare friends and supporters (particularly those with dirt, presumably).
So, the special counsel will likely try to find a way to charge this as a state-level crime, ideally in a Democrat-controlled state, so that Trump's pardon power does not apply. Flynn's residence is in North Carolina, where AG Josh Stein (D) might well cooperate and Gov. Roy Cooper (D-NC) is unlikely to issue a state pardon. Another possibility is New York, where meetings might have taken place. If that can be proven, New York AG Eric Schneidermanówho aspires to be Gov. Eric Schneidermanówould undoubtedly be more than happy to prosecute. (Z)
If true Mueller should be removed immediately. This would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this investigation is political in nature & that the goal is to get Trump, not to investigate the possibility of Russian collusion
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Yeah, Mueller is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy smarter than Trump. There is nothing Trump can do that will stop Mueller. One way or the other Trump is in big trouble.

Ken
You make it sound like Mueller is a hit man who was given a contract to kill Trump. "One way or the other"? You mean whether guilty of a crime or not, I presume?
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You make it sound like Mueller is a hit man who was given a contract to kill Trump. "One way or the other"? You mean whether guilty of a crime or not, I presume?
You can PRESUME what you want.
Trump is still in trouble. He's crooked to the core and Mueller will expose that. Make of it what you will.

Ken
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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Whether he has done anything wrong or not?
This is the USA, whatever about "justice" for all, there is excellent protections from justice is you are rich. If Trump did nothing there is ZERO CHANCE his lawyers cannot kick Mueller to the curb. And frankly Trump has sued poeple and threatened people all his life, he is used to this and it is water off a duck's back...

unless of course he is guilty, then it is likley Trump is browning his pants...


so you can pretend trump is some kind of victim all you want, after all it is what the Right does. Act like victims cry like victims and demand everyone else be punished for the perceived victimizations they suffer.


Trump loves to play the victim, and do his supporters..
 
Old 08-27-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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"It is widely understood that Mueller's game is not to get Michael Flynn, per se, but to catch him as a "small fish" in the net in hopes of getting him to flip on the "big fish." The same is true of Paul Manafort, on whom the walls are also closing in.
Mueller now knows, thanks to the Joe Arpaio situation, that the President has no hesitation in using his pardon power to spare friends and supporters (particularly those with dirt, presumably).
So, the special counsel will likely try to find a way to charge this as a state-level crime, ideally in a Democrat-controlled state, so that Trump's pardon power does not apply. Flynn's residence is in North Carolina, where AG Josh Stein (D) might well cooperate and Gov. Roy Cooper (D-NC) is unlikely to issue a state pardon. Another possibility is New York, where meetings might have taken place. If that can be proven, New York AG Eric Schneidermanówho aspires to be Gov. Eric Schneidermanówould undoubtedly be more than happy to prosecute. (Z)
There is nothing in this biased website that actually supports your assertion

As an aside..I don't think Mueller has the mandate..or the power..to bring
State charges..at best, he could recommend charges to the relevant State officials for their consideration.

Just a fantasy...maybe---nothing more.
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