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What difference does it make when it happened? It happened.
Christians murdered Jews and Muslims during the Crusades about 8-900 years ago.
So as a Christian, I am to be held accountable, right? That red Cross on their shield stands for murder and genocide, right?
The English persecuted the Scots and Irish for over hundreds of years, yet I (a Scotch-Irish) love to visit London and Bath. But according to you, it doesn't matter when it happened, only that it happened. So I should ask Queen Liz for some reparations, right?
Doesn't matter that it was the 1600's, by your own reasoning.
Sorry dude if I missed it. You wrote walls of text trying to justify how racist symbols aren't racist because you can simply imagine history away. Easy to get lost in the bull****.
And would be so polite as to point out exactly where in my posts that I did such a thing?
Please be specific, because I would really, really love to see where I did this.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
Just like I'm still waiting for a reponse to the original post that prompted this reply and/or the other poster that asked the same question.
Still waiting.
Buddy you need to give it up. Isn't that foot starting to kind of uncomfortable in your mouth?
You literally said you can assign your own meanings to symbols. History disagrees.
That truly is the most inane thing you've said to this point, out of a ton of really inane things.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of symbols throughout the ages that have taken on different meaning over time. There have been books written about this very thing. Hell, even the movie the Da Vinci Code referred to it a dozen times.
Man, you really don't know what you're talking about.
You need to stop. I don't think you realize how much you're embarrassing yourself.
Your argument is that it's okay because of the passage of time? Alright. People were being lynched in the south as late as the time of World War 2, around the time millions of people were being exterminated under the Third Reich. Is it cool if I fly the swastika? I mean, the same amount of time has passed so it shouldn't be a problem. Is it a problem?
Being a Jew with family that paid that Nazi price no, I don't like it. Here's the difference, they have a RIGHT to do so under our constitution AND as long as they don't act on any of the crap they spew then it'll stay non violent.
I, unlike the morons who started violence in Charlottesville believe that just because you're waving around a flag that I don't like does NOT suspend your right to do so.
You literally said you can assign your own meanings to symbols. History disagrees.
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Originally Posted by Starman71
That truly is the most inane thing you've said to this point, out of a ton of really inane things.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of symbols throughout the ages that have taken on different meaning over time. There have been books written about this very thing. Hell, even the movie the Da Vinci Code referred to it a dozen times.
Man, you really don't know what you're talking about.
You need to stop. I don't think you realize how much you're embarrassing yourself.
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Originally Posted by Starman71
For the final time, and I truly mean this as I'm starting to see you haven't got what it takes for comprehension:
The bolded above is what it means to you. It's what it meant (past tense there, notice it? Learn what that means in school, right?) to many people - but not all - that lived in that era.
It does not mean that to 95% of the people currently flying it.
Once more... It does NOT mean that to the people currently flying it.
You admitted human subjugation is what it meant to people in the era of the confederacy, but in the very next lines said it's not what it means to people today. It's clear you meant you can assign your own meanings to symbols.
Being a Jew with family that paid that Nazi price no, I don't like it. Here's the difference, they have a RIGHT to do so under our constitution AND as long as they don't act on any of the crap they spew then it'll stay non violent.
I, unlike the morons who started violence in Charlottesville believe that just because you're waving around a flag that I don't like does NOT suspend your right to do so.
Nobody's disputing the rights of people to fly hate symbols. The issue in question is why people want to fly them, including the confederate flag.
Okay, take your L. Taking up the defense for the confederate flag is a losing proposition. But it's always amusing when people lash themselves to that mast. Even funnier when they're smug about it.
I would rather see that stars and stripes, but as long a they're saving folks.........Who cares?
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