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Old 08-28-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Why should 15% of the counties in the US dictate who is going to be our POTUS?
Clinton Counties - FactCheck.org
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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We can't win so we have to change the rules. Sounds about right.

In other words, rules are not for keeping order, they are for getting what "I" want.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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We can't win so we have to change the rules. Sounds about right.
This. The childish temper tantrum continues.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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True Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
Which is why we are a republic. Doesn't change the factual nature of the statement.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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why should one person in Wyoming have the same power it takes 137,000 people in Ohio?


it's so simple, one person, one vote, what are you scared of???
It's so simple. Maybe a bunch of liberals from Ohio should move to Wyoming and make it more balanced....
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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They should reform the Electoral College so votes are awarded proportionally. This prevent it from just being a popular vote, but also gets rid of the idiotic "winner take all" system that we have, which is decidedly undemocratic. This would also allow third parties a bit of attention, as I could see them winning a district or two, which could potentially lead to escalation in popularity.

Which means there will be no reform....
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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They should reform the Electoral College so votes are awarded proportionally. This prevent it from just being a popular vote, but also gets rid of the idiotic "winner take all" system that we have, which is decidedly undemocratic. This would also allow third parties a bit of attention, as I could see them winning a district or two, which could potentially lead to escalation in popularity.

Which means there will be no reform....

I've thought of that idea before. I think for states with a lot of electoral votes it makes sense. California has what 54 votes? It really makes a republican voter worthless in terms of a vote. That's one reason I always say that going by the popular vote in the final results is stupid. People always say "well Clinton won by 3 million votes". Well, how many people decided not to even vote because they know their voice would not be heard. Same goes for Democrats in Texas.

Only issue though is states with only 3 electoral votes. How do you split that up? I don't think it's fair to split up 3...2 Republican. 1 Democrat just because 33% of the votes go Democrat.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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I don't like the Popular Vote Compact. I think it is unconstitutional.


If people want to get rid of the electoral college, we would need a constitutional amendment.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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They should reform the Electoral College so votes are awarded proportionally. This prevent it from just being a popular vote, but also gets rid of the idiotic "winner take all" system that we have, which is decidedly undemocratic. This would also allow third parties a bit of attention, as I could see them winning a district or two, which could potentially lead to escalation in popularity.

Which means there will be no reform....
Why doesn't the left change? Are you too smart for the deplorables? An increasing amount of people don't want the division that the left is selling, and are tiring of their childish behavior and tantrums.

Obama's slogan was CHANGE. Somehow it is supposed to apply to everyone else but the left.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Bingo.


The electoral college isn't going anywhere, as 2/3 of the states would need to agree to the change.
Not happening.




Actually 3/4 , meaning 38 states.




Aint happening
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