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Very true, the rapid poorly planned development in Houston has it's share of the blame as do some other cities that ignore development in flood prone areas. The cost of flooding in Houston is the highest in the US.
Just Houston? Most of the state of Texas can't build basements FOR A REASON...
Global warming didn't cause the hurricane -- but it definitely made it worse. Sea level rise and warmer ocean temperatures act like hurricane steroids:
"As sea surface temperatures rise, more ocean water evaporates into the atmosphere. The relationship is exponential, says Kirtman. "For a small change in temperature, you get a huge amount of evaporation," he says.
Surface temperatures in the Gulf have been above average this summer. The air was filled with humidity. And then came Harvey. It swept up the humid air and then wrung it out over Texas like a sponge." How A Warmer Climate Helped Shape Harvey : The Two-Way : NPR
Michael Mann:
"What can we say about the role of climate change in the unprecedented disaster that is unfolding in Houston with Hurricane Harvey? There are certain climate change-related factors that we can, with great confidence, say worsened the flooding.
Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge."
You don't understand science, do you? Science never says that ANYTHING is 100% proven because new evidence can sometimes change the theory. And lets get that word right, too. In the wider world the word "theory" means a guess. But in science, and educated guess is an hypotheses. A theory in science is a hypothosis that has gone on to have a great deal of evidence showing that it is true. In fact, the evidence is so heavily weighted toward proof, that it is believed to be true. But there is always room for changing the theory if there is new evidence. So no real scientist will ever say "This is fact" or "Climate change because of human activity is truth." They will say that it is "almost certainly" true because they have to leave a little room for new evidence. That is the reason science is different from "belief."
You didn't get my point. Climate scientists can use their fudged models to say that storms will be stronger and more intense. But to my knowledge, they can't demonstrate that any given storm is the result off man-made global warming. Particularly when storms have always occurred throughout history.
By the way, I fully understand the falsification theory of science. But that's not how climate scientists talk about their science. They use words like "consensus", which is irrelevant in science.
Because if they had..people like you would have pored over the article until they found some wiggle room....and lambasted the article for 'fake science'--that's why.
They didn't even try. All the article did was say that certain factors could make storms worse. Then it lazily assumed that every storm is automatically worse.
The climate is more nuanced than that and always has been.
Global warming didn't cause the hurricane -- but it definitely made it worse. Sea level rise and warmer ocean temperatures act like hurricane steroids:
"As sea surface temperatures rise, more ocean water evaporates into the atmosphere. The relationship is exponential, says Kirtman. "For a small change in temperature, you get a huge amount of evaporation," he says.
Surface temperatures in the Gulf have been above average this summer. The air was filled with humidity. And then came Harvey. It swept up the humid air and then wrung it out over Texas like a sponge." How A Warmer Climate Helped Shape Harvey : The Two-Way : NPR
Michael Mann:
"What can we say about the role of climate change in the unprecedented disaster that is unfolding in Houston with Hurricane Harvey? There are certain climate change-related factors that we can, with great confidence, say worsened the flooding.
Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge."
Nothing the government can do about it, despite their clamor for for more tax money and federal regulations.
The fraud is the government can reverse global warming.
We can, should and do respect the environment. The real issues that gave us vast floating islands of plastic in the Pacific and cancer producing processes as in the creation of vinyl siding and other industrial abuse still go on unabated and endorsed by purchase from the most stalwart eco warriors..
Didn't this storm go from just a tropical depression to a Category 4 hurricane in just under two hours?
How does this happen?
Actually 56 hours Tuesday it was a tropical depression and Thursday it was a cat 3 hurricane, then Friday a cat 4 but yes very rapid. One of the issues with evacuating, you don't evacuate a city of several million people in a day. There was absolutely nothing normal about this storm.
Just Houston? Most of the state of Texas can't build basements FOR A REASON...
True but the numbers for Houston are pretty astounding, nation wide they need to address this as many states have made very poor choices.
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Nationally, repeat federal flood relief payouts averaged about $3,000 per square mile (2.5 square kilometers). But in greater Houston, the payouts were nearly a whopping $500,000 per square mile (2.5 square kilometers).
Actually 56 hours Tuesday it was a tropical depression and Thursday it was a cat 3 hurricane, then Friday a cat 4 but yes very rapid. One of the issues with evacuating, you don't evacuate a city of several million people in a day. There was absolutely nothing normal about this storm.
But there have been several similar in history.
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