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Old 08-30-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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This is the source interview:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

Q: You wrote in your book: "At the heart of the anti-fascist outlook is a rejection of the classical liberal phrase incorrectly ascribed to Voltaire that says I disapprove of what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." What do you mean by that?

A: Anti-fascists are illiberal. They don't see fascism or white supremacy as a view with which they disagree as a difference of opinion. They view organizing against them as a political struggle where the goal is not to establish a regime of rights that allow neo-Nazis and victims to coexist and exchange discourse, but rather the goal is to end their politics.

Q: Dartmouth’s president put out a statement distancing the school from your remarks, saying they don't support violence of any kind. You also faced a lot of criticism in the conservative press, saying you were defending offensive violence against fascists. How would you respond to that criticism?

A: I believe that the statement oversimplifies and distorts and decontextualizes my arguments. Because I’m not against free speech, I’m against those who are trying to shut down free speech, and I think it’s in the interests of humanity and diversity to try to prevent those who want to murder much of the population from being able to get anywhere near doing that. I wouldn’t characterize my political perspective as being "violent protests" so much as community self defense.
thank you for the context.


this is an unhinged leftist fascist doing exactly that fascists do. I don't think you agree. I think you see this has justifiable.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
This is the source interview:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

Q: You wrote in your book: "At the heart of the anti-fascist outlook is a rejection of the classical liberal phrase incorrectly ascribed to Voltaire that says I disapprove of what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." What do you mean by that?

A: Anti-fascists are illiberal. They don't see fascism or white supremacy as a view with which they disagree as a difference of opinion. They view organizing against them as a political struggle where the goal is not to establish a regime of rights that allow neo-Nazis and victims to coexist and exchange discourse, but rather the goal is to end their politics.

Q: Dartmouth’s president put out a statement distancing the school from your remarks, saying they don't support violence of any kind. You also faced a lot of criticism in the conservative press, saying you were defending offensive violence against fascists. How would you respond to that criticism?

A: I believe that the statement oversimplifies and distorts and decontextualizes my arguments. Because I’m not against free speech, I’m against those who are trying to shut down free speech, and I think it’s in the interests of humanity and diversity to try to prevent those who want to murder much of the population from being able to get anywhere near doing that. I wouldn’t characterize my political perspective as being "violent protests" so much as community self defense.
"Decontextualizes". Did Orwell come up with this word? Doubleplusungood.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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75% of americans identify as white. The liberals anti-white stuff will backfire real quick, they're overplaying their hand. In 50 years when 60% identify as white it may work better but they're way too early.
You have to consider that the Leftists in Politics & Media don't HAVE 50 years to wait. Their careers (and wannabe careers) will be about over by then.

Interesting article on Bloomberg on why this Anti-Trump and Anti-Trump voters vilification is just not working.

Written by Clive Crook (certainly no Trump supporter) - BUT, he "gets it".
[color=Clive Crook is a Bloomberg View columnist and writes editorials on economics, finance and politics. He was chief Washington commentator for the Financial Times, a correspondent and editor for the Economist and a senior editor at the Atlantic. [/color]

Why People Still Support Trump. - It's not all about bigotry and ignorance.|Bloomberg - 8/28/17

There are two main theories of Trump's support. One is that a large minority of Americans -- 40 percent, give or take -- are racist idiots. This theory is at least tacitly endorsed by the Democratic Party and the mainstream liberal media. The other is that a large majority of this large minority are good citizens with intelligible and legitimate opinions, who so resent being regarded as racist idiots that they'll back Trump almost regardless. They may not admire the man, but he's on their side, he vents their frustration, he afflicts the people who think so little of them -- and that's good enough.

He goes on to say that IF "Theory 1 is correct" -- there is no point to Democracy and if "Theory 2 is correct "(which he believes) then it "is a terrible indictment of the Democratic Party and much of the media. Why aren't the intelligible and legitimate opinions of that large minority given a hearing? Why must their views be bundled reflexively into packages labelled "bigotry" and "stupidity"? Why can't this large minority of the American people be accorded something other than pity or scorn?"

I've pointed out all along that all this "IMPEACH" stuff and Riots against Trump voters is not nearly as much about President Trump as it is against those who Freely Chose to go to the Polls on November 8th and reject the Democratic Candidate for President and the Democratic Party.

It's not a "war" on Donald Trump - it's a "war" on the Voters when the losing Party & their Media reject the Vote. What the author doesn't point out is that a lot of that "vote rejection" is also coming from the Elite Career Republicans also -- but the Voters are certainly aware of those Republicans that don't support the will of the Voters.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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It's getting harder and harder for the Left/Democrats/DNC to deny their hatred and racism when the very people they look up to and the news they watch support these sentiments. At this rate they will not win another election again in 50 years or more.
The democrat Party is a party of hate and racism for votes, that was true when Dims had slaves, it was true during Jim Crow days of segregation, and now it's true with the Leftist fascists ANTIFA tied to the Demonic rat Party.
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