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I agree. A lot of these socialists from California are moving to Colorado metros. It's an interesting dynamic because the small business owners and land owning farmers are of the polar opposite political beliefs. Good case study for what the entire US could look like a generation from now.
Huh? How did you draw that conclusion from what I posted, which was a response to someone who painted Colorado as part of affordable middle America?
The liberal power bases on the coasts are thankfully dying off thanks to the radical extremism that prevails there. I'm just hoping that when dumps like Chicago, NY and LAfinally implode the rest of us don't have to bail out the liberals responsible for it.
Migratory trends are clear People/Businesses/Capital are leaving older, union run blue states in the northeast and upper midwest en masse for red/purple states in the south and west. Now there are exceptions like California but as a whole the red states are gaining population while the blue states are remaining even(because of international immigration) or on the decline. Places like Connecticut, Illinois, Rhode Island are bleeding population. If you look at the states with the largest middle classes(with COL adjustments) they're almost all red or purple states and the states with the largest gap in wealth equality are all blue states. Some are starting to realize it and electing moderates/conservatives like Wisconsin, Penn, Michigan, WV. Now you would think this would have democrats saying why have our policies driven so many people out and created so much inequality? But the majority are not, they're moving further to the left blaming the problems on not being far enough to the left. Why won't the left admit that their policies are anti-middle class, forcing people out?
Nice theory, but the stats do not back it up.Oregon, Washington, Vermont, DC, are blue. Nevada and Florida are purple. It's a lot about weather and jobs. And liberal Mass is not going anywhere. NYC is fine. United’s top 10 list of inbound states were, in order, and after this week, not sure Texas is so desirable:
1. Oregon
2. South Carolina
3. Vermont
4. Idaho
5. North Carolina
6. Florida
7. Nevada
8. Washington, D.C.
9. Texas
10. Washington
Keep dreaming. Those blue urban areas are not turning red and people are not fleeing them--they are fleeing rural areas with no jobs and no future.
Nice theory, but the stats do not back it up.Oregon, Washington, Vermont, DC, are blue. Nevada and Florida are purple. It's a lot about weather and jobs. And liberal Mass is not going anywhere. NYC is fine. United’s top 10 list of inbound states were, in order, and after this week, not sure Texas is so desirable:
1. Oregon
2. South Carolina
3. Vermont
4. Idaho
5. North Carolina
6. Florida
7. Nevada
8. Washington, D.C.
9. Texas
10. Washington
Keep dreaming. Those blue urban areas are not turning red and people are not fleeing them--they are fleeing rural areas with no jobs and no future.
Your stats are backwards. Grand Rapids is the fastest growing metro(VERY red), the rest of the fastest growing metros are in Florida(still a very red state at the state level), Texas, South Carolina, Washington. 95 of the 100 fastest growing counties are red counties. For more proof look at the 100 slowest growing counties all of them are blue(CT, RI, Illinois, Maryland). People are leaving blue areas for red areas.
Colorado is not cheap. Just thought you should know.
Heh.. CoL is Cost of Living. Though you are right, CO isn't cheap... but it has a booming economy because it got wise faster than the rest of the country. Common sense and no war on citizens tends to have great results, like a 4% unemployment rate and wages rising faster than any other state.
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Originally Posted by Enigma777
Nice theory, but the stats do not back it up.Oregon, Washington, Vermont, DC, are blue. Nevada and Florida are purple. It's a lot about weather and jobs. And liberal Mass is not going anywhere. NYC is fine. United’s top 10 list of inbound states were, in order, and after this week, not sure Texas is so desirable:
1. Oregon
2. South Carolina
3. Vermont
4. Idaho
5. North Carolina
6. Florida
7. Nevada
8. Washington, D.C.
9. Texas
10. Washington
Keep dreaming. Those blue urban areas are not turning red and people are not fleeing them--they are fleeing rural areas with no jobs and no future.
The liberal power bases on the coasts are thankfully dying off thanks to the radical extremism that prevails there. I'm just hoping that when dumps like Chicago, NY and LAfinally implode the rest of us don't have to bail out the liberals responsible for it.
Not only will they be bailed out, they'll all be voted back in again.
Heh.. CoL is Cost of Living. Though you are right, CO isn't cheap... but it has a booming economy because it got wise faster than the rest of the country. Common sense and no war on citizens tends to have great results, like a 4% unemployment rate and wages rising faster than any other state.
The COL has skyrocketed in Colorado, along with the population count. The majority of people moving here tend to be liberal. I am a Colorado native and I've watched my state change from rural, overwhelmingly conservative to the more urban, more liberal state that it is today. There is a general dislike of our republican senator, Cory Gardner, and I feel fairly safe in predicting that he will be voted out come 2020. "Purple" Colorado is turning more blue by the day and I doubt if anyone will be bailing out Denver anytime soon. As it now stands, rural Colorado is heavily dependent on the liberal population centers that make up the Front Range. The counties that lie in Colorado's Eastern Plains (red) are an economic write-off and the rural Western Slope is adapting to the times by attracting more well off retirees from both Coasts. While my rural county is still red for the moment, we are surrounded by a sea of blue.
Your source states that 8 out of 10 of Colorado's fastest growing counties went Trump in the election and refers vaguely to US census counts without giving any links. The reality is that 8 out of 10 of Colorado's fastest growing counties went for Clinton. The exceptions are El Paso County and Weld County. If Lifezette is willing to blur the truth about Colorado to such an extent, I question what they have to say about any place else.
Heh.. CoL is Cost of Living. Though you are right, CO isn't cheap... but it has a booming economy because it got wise faster than the rest of the country. Common sense and no war on citizens tends to have great results, like a 4% unemployment rate and wages rising faster than any other state.
Yes, I'm aware that COL is the acronym for Cost of Living. I was responding to the following post...
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Originally Posted by ColoradoOnMyMind
Texas, Tennessee, Carolinas, Georgia, Colorado (purple) and Utah are the cream of the crop when it comes to attracting young people to plant roots and go after the American dream. These states are poised for an amazing future of growth and prosperity. The west coast has the beauty and east coast has history but the middle of the country is the heartland.
Nice theory, but the stats do not back it up.Oregon, Washington, Vermont, DC, are blue. Nevada and Florida are purple. It's a lot about weather and jobs. And liberal Mass is not going anywhere. NYC is fine. United’s top 10 list of inbound states were, in order, and after this week, not sure Texas is so desirable:
1. Oregon
2. South Carolina
3. Vermont
4. Idaho
5. North Carolina
6. Florida
7. Nevada
8. Washington, D.C.
9. Texas
10. Washington
Keep dreaming. Those blue urban areas are not turning red and people are not fleeing them--they are fleeing rural areas with no jobs and no future.
Texas' desirability isn't going anywhere. The I-35 corridor from DFW to San Antonio will remain strong. Houston will fully bounce back. The city will have to regenerate northward away from the flood zones though.
Georgia is pink headed towards purple. If Metro Atlanta's economic boom remains, this area could turn Georgia blue within the next few decades. Many of Georgia's smaller solid red counties are losing population.
Much of that movement is retirees who are taking their politics with them. They move for better climates and a manageable COL. They aren't working or raising families and will be needing medical and social services in their new state. How many retirees do you know who gleefully support school tax levies or even bond issues let alone general revenue tax hikes for services?
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Even within the South and West, migration shifts toward the least conservative places. It's not like Monroe, LA and Montgomery, AL and Jonesboro, AR are boomtowns. No, the "jobs of tomorrow", where the next big tech or creativity advances occur, they're in Austin, Raleigh-Durham (both easily the most liberal cities in conservative states). Even Dallas County elected a Latina lesbian as sheriff at the same time a lot of middle American states (including TX) were voting to constitutionally ban gay marriage. Atlanta, esp the part in DeKalb County, has long had a strong liberal scene. Houston, also a strongly liberal city. Same for Colorado. Used to be solidly conservative until Denver and Boulder too big for too long to be truly conservative.
Seems that growth of cities ultimately turns them liberal in the long run. We're already seeing North Carolina move to purple, and Georgia is not far behind. Even Texas might turn blue in 15 years, unless the Republicans undergo some sort of epiphany.
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