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Old 09-02-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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So basically as long you are doing ok screw everyone else.
Why aren't people who can't make it here moving to other countries that will take care of them?
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Why aren't people who can't make it here moving to other countries that will take care of them?
Maybe becasue gasp they are poor!
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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So basically as long you are doing ok screw everyone else.
That's not what I said. I sit on the board of a charitable foundation. I freely give a great deal of money to that foundation. The difference is, nobody is forcing me to give.

I don't believe in corporate welfare either. Neither has a place in our government.
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Maybe becasue gasp they are poor!
So, the illegals coming to the US from Mexico and Central America aren't poor?
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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That's not what I said. I sit on the board of a charitable foundation. I freely give a great deal of money to that foundation. The difference is, nobody is forcing me to give.

I don't believe in corporate welfare either. Neither has a place in our government.
I hear ya I volunteer weekly at a soup kitchen however you still pay taxes everyone has to. I don't see why a portion couldn't go to really stamping out poverty its not unfeasible we have more empty houses than homeless people we throw away more food than we can eat. Something is rotten
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Why do so many working class americans vote against policies and people that would improve there lives?
I don't vote for or against things based on whether it will improve my life. I vote based on whether it is the right thing to do - meaning it will do the most collective good - meaning it will, eventually, improve my life.

I can't imagine that anyone would do otherwise.


The more interesting question, for me, is why do so many people vote for things that they think will improve their lives in the short run, while hurting the lives of others in the short run, which will eventually hurt the life of the voter (unless they die before it all comes to a head)?
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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So, the illegals coming to the US from Mexico and Central America aren't poor?
Without immigrants our agricultural system would collapse. Instead of pointing fingers at immigrants maybe blame the rich for undercutting native peoples wages in the pursuit of profit.
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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What ever happened to rugged american individualism, was it all a myth?
all I see now are people wanting to be pampered/ protected at someone elses expense and helicopter parented by Uncle Sam. Pitiful.
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:24 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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You realize people working full time at low wage jobs can't afford rent and food right? Doesn't sound like they are slacking to me.
Why don't they get some real job skills then? No one should be expecting to raise a family on fast food restaurant wages. If someone is good at grilling burgers, then go get a job at a real restaurant and learn how to become a chef. A cashier can graduate to being a server at a fine restaurant.

Low wages are for starter jobs, not anything that should be expected to be a career. And if they do, then they are indeed slackers that somehow want to spend their entire lives doing menial work. And that is no America's problem to fix. Life rewards the ambitious, and that's the way it should be. Why rewards anyone who is content floating through life and having babies willy-nilly?
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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Without immigrants our agricultural system would collapse. Instead of pointing fingers at immigrants maybe blame the rich for undercutting native peoples wages in the pursuit of profit.

I'm sure by "immigrants" you are referring to illegal aliens, right? Not uncommon for the left to blur those lines. Only 2% of illegals are picking crops and for those jobs there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers. Those who employ illegal aliens are certainly to blame for undercutting citizen wages and denying them jobs. However, the illegal aliens are just as much to blame for accepting jobs they aren't lawfully entitled to either. Both need to be punished severely.
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