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We hit multiple high temperature records here in the Bay Area, Oregon is chocking on forest fire smoke thanks in part to record heat and record amounts of rain flooding Texas from Hurricane Harvey. This all within couple weeks.
And Drumpf appointed a climate denying politician to head NASA
You need to incentivize people to demand it. That's how psychology works. It's also how capitalism works.
Brainwash people into wanting alternative energy? That is not how capitalism works.
Costs have to be comparable to fossil fuels. Reality is most Americans and most people in the world can not afford to spend double the price just to help the planet. Until we can mass market an electric car for the cost of a fossil fuel car and make it travel just as far its not going to appeal the the masses.
Brainwash people into wanting alternative energy? That is not how capitalism works.
Costs have to be comparable to fossil fuels. Reality is most Americans and most people in the world can not afford to spend double the price just to help the planet. Until we can mass market an electric car for the cost of a fossil fuel car and make it travel just as far its not going to appeal the the masses.
You think alternative energy is unaffordable? Just wait for sea level rise, extreme weather, mass migrations, crop failure, etc and if we do nothing today, it will get far more expensive to deal with later on. That's passing the buck down to our children and grand children.
How is your life impacted a lot from pollution? I live outside a major eastern city, and I have clean air, and clean water. I have no problem drinking my tap water. It is perfectly fine. I catch trout in the local rivers, and streams, and can eat them with no issues.
It's not about your one data point. Ask people in LA or White Plains about breathable air. Or someone from Flint Michigan about their lead contaminated drinking water.
We hit multiple high temperature records here in the Bay Area, Oregon is chocking on forest fire smoke thanks in part to record heat and record amounts of rain flooding Texas from Hurricane Harvey. This all within couple weeks.
And Drumpf appointed a climate denying politician to head NASA
You are mixing up weather and climate. Same thing the right does when it snows someplace where it normally does not and then point to that as proof the planet is not getting warmer.
The hottest temperature ever recorded on earth occurred 80 years ago. That is weather not climate.
You think alternative energy is unaffordable? Just wait for sea level rise, extreme weather, mass migrations, crop failure, etc and if we do nothing today, it will get far more expensive to deal with later on. That's passing the buck down to our children and grand children.
I am saying you can't expect the average person to sacrifice when they are barely getting by as it is. They have to worry about taking care of their family and themselves first, not future crop failures.
Without climate change, we'll still be in the ice age. What the liberals like to spin climate change as a way to spend and invest on their platform. Scientifically, climate change is always real and will continue to do so. We need to adapt as species.
we will move to a different source of energy within the next 50 years. we will do it because we will develop technologies that lead us to better energy sources. Period.
That's going to happen. im not sure I understand what the point of the thread is.
we will move to a different source of energy within the next 50 years. we will do it because we will develop technologies that lead us to better energy sources. Period.
That's going to happen. im not sure I understand what the point of the thread is.
Really?
My point was that even if climate change was a complete hoax, it would still be smart for us to do the things that are recommended to help avoid it.
We will adapt to the detrimental effects of a warmer planet, take advantage of the benefits of a warmer planet, move organically (not through top-down planning) toward a solar energy grid while continuing to privately research next-generation fission and first-generation fusion power, develop ever more efficient agricultural methods and strains as well as the "growing" of protein-rich meat, and use the exponential growth in our scientific understanding and engineering prowess to place a limit on warming and eventually, in the fullness of time, control the overall climate trajectory.
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