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I was trying to piece together a reason for that police officer's outrageous conduct and complete belligerence. Not much made sense given that the victim who was injured and unconscious had any charges against him. Then I thought that the police may have been out to try to save their own asses from a potential lawsuit against them brought on by the police chase. They were chasing another driver whose vehicle hit the truck. That driver died and the truck driver was injured and burned. If they could obtain a blood sample that showed the truck driver had any alcohol or drugs in his system, they could use that as leverage against him if he sued them. That may have been the reason they were desperate to get a blood sample. Real nice, they contribute to an accident and then target the victim to protect themselves.
If that's the case, then the police chief and the chain of command are IN DEEP TROUBLE and will lose their jobs on top of having their asses sued. The nurse and truck driver need to lawyer up and take these guys down. The hospital should also put that department in its place so this kind of Nazi behavior doesn't ever happen again.
I'm 90% sure this is exactly the reason. They could make some poor guy out to be the scapegoat.
I think this is an overreaction by the hospital but one that has been caused by the failure of the police department to deal with the initial problem in an effective and timely manner. Why did they wait for the video to come out before placing these cops on leave, before apologizing and before starting a criminal investigation?
What the hospital is now saying is that they do not have confidence in the ability of the police to interact with professional medical staff or to comport themselves professionally in patient care areas. That is a huge indictment of the police department.
This kind of thing isn't uncommon, you just actually know about it now because of the prevelence of video and social media.
Read the story below, 2 LI police departments, the most highly paid in the country, conspired to protect violent off duty cops. It took them years of public pressure to finally fire the 2 cops, who should have been fired immediately and given jail time.
"New York's powerful police unions have secured for their members one of the toughest officer privacy laws in the nation. Known as the 50-a law, it allows law enforcement agencies to keep hidden from the public any record used to judge an officer's performance, including officer misconduct investigations."
He should be advised against mixing testosterone with too much coffee.
It's an off-hand post, but you're probably right.
A lot of the first responders we work with (fire, paramedics, police) are on T.
I am talking about guys in their late 20s and 30s even.
We're seeing firefighters having heart attacks in their 40s, liver damage, strokes, and blood clots.
This just goes to show you that it's more than "just a few bad apples". Yes, it may only be a few cops who abuse citizens, but all of his partners and friends go along with it, even if they know it's wrong. They'd rather stand there quietly than turn against one of their own.
I was always 100% behind the cops until it happened in our ER.
These cops beat this guy...slammed his head repeatedly against a brick wall. Because he mouthed off. So hard that the doors on the corridor of rooms down the hall shook.
It was so violent that I thought he had got up and fought them at first (bc I had just walked around the corner). I said to the nurse who had been sitting there, "What did he do? Lunge at them?" He was sitting there wide-eyed. He said, "Nothing. He didn't do anything."
Then I saw the guy had been sitting on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back.
Right then, another coworker who had been where the monitors were recording the security stuff came around the corner and said, "Did you see that?!"
We were really disturbed and reported the incident.
A few days later, we were all paid a visit by a...gentleman...who told us that we didn't see what we thought we saw. He was very firm and insistent about this. And slightly menacing.
And the video disappeared.
Over the years I have gotten to know a lot of folks in law enforcement. Border patrol, FBI, DPS, local LE, sheriffs' department guys, etc. While I have gotten to know some good folks (and helped with some fund-raising for re-election, etc), I would say that overwhelmingly my experience has been fairly negative. Even just sitting there watching them interact with others.
And even the good ones insist on you giving up your 4th and 5th amendment rights to make their lives easier. They get really mad when you don't. Then they get hostile. And sometimes they get violent.
I thought their job was to protect our rights. Not violate them.
I was always 100% behind the cops until it happened in our ER.
These cops beat this guy...slammed his head repeatedly against a brick wall. Because he mouthed off. So hard that the doors on the corridor of rooms down the hall shook.
It was so violent that I thought he had got up and fought them at first (bc I had just walked around the corner). I said to the nurse who had been sitting there, "What did he do? Lunge at them?" He was sitting there wide-eyed. He said, "Nothing. He didn't do anything."
Then I saw the guy had been sitting on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back.
Right then, another coworker who had been where the monitors were recording the security stuff came around the corner and said, "Did you see that?!"
We were really disturbed and reported the incident.
A few days later, we were all paid a visit by a...gentleman...who told us that we didn't see what we thought we saw. He was very firm and insistent about this. And slightly menacing.
And the video disappeared.
Over the years I have gotten to know a lot of folks in law enforcement. Border patrol, FBI, DPS, local LE, sheriffs' department guys, etc. While I have gotten to know some good folks (and helped with some fund-raising for re-election, etc), I would say that overwhelmingly my experience has been fairly negative. Even just sitting there watching them interact with others.
And even the good ones insist on you giving up your 4th and 5th amendment rights to make their lives easier. They get really mad when you don't. Then they get hostile. And sometimes they get violent.
I thought their job was to protect our rights. Not violate them.
That's pretty naive that you ever thought that.
Their first job is revenue generation for the municipalities. Every cop is required to write a certain number of traffic tickets every month, in every department on Long Island. Yes there are quotas. Their second is first responders, of which they do an admirable job where I live. Their third is to arrest criminals. If they happen to suspect you are a criminal, even if you aren't, they don't care. Even the good ones where I live carry water for the bad ones, because that is the culture. Read the story I linked to above.
A drag racing drunken cop shot a guy who mouthed off to him, and the cops who arrived on the scene (from another department) lied and covered up his CRIMES, and make no mistake that is what they were. And I'm pretty sure a relative of mine was on the scene there. A bad guy? No. Carried water for borderline psychos because cops don't rat on other cops? Yes.
The cop in question was fired a few years later but not after pulling hundreds of thousands more in salary, when he should have been fired immediately and then given jail time for attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon.
I think this is an overreaction by the hospital but one that has been caused by the failure of the police department to deal with the initial problem in an effective and timely manner. Why did they wait for the video to come out before placing these cops on leave, before apologizing and before starting a criminal investigation?
Defending our civil rights is never an overreaction. While it's a good thing this video has blown up getting some to understand why this is that refused to understand it before, this does not only apply to reserve officers and white nurses.
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What the hospital is now saying is that they do not have confidence in the ability of the police to interact with professional medical staff or to comport themselves professionally in patient care areas. That is a huge indictment of the police department.
Many have long had reasons to fear police interactions.
Interesting development, the hospital will have to make adjustments when dealing with combative subjects brought to the ER by law enforcement.
It's pretty sad it came down to this. Not being able to trust law enforcement to act like decent humans.
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