Add an extra $71 billion to the economy, start taxing churches (Iraq, Afghanistan)

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Please elaborate on the specifics of how they would not benefit.

Give us the numbers on how these tolls and fees would be greater than the prebate they would receive.

Here is a link that will help you figure out the prebate amount: The Fair Tax Calculator

The average commuter in Dallas and Houston has to shell out $200/month in tolls, where here, no one pays any tolls. For someone who only makes $1,000-$1,500/month, $200 is very punative!

[Pilot1]

Tax churches, and tax foundations that pretend to do charity, but are really scams, or political covers.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

The average commuter in Dallas and Houston has to shell out $200/month in tolls, where here, no one pays any tolls. For someone who only makes $1,000-$1,500/month, $200 is very punative!

Lol, you think tolls are federal revenue?

BTW, I live in Houston and pay abou $30 a month in tolls.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

So, are you saying toll bridges (the vast majority of which aren't going to the Feds, if any) are going to eat up the prebate?

Please show me that math.

I said exactly what I said in answering your question. Your spin on what I said does not interest me.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by pknopp

I said exactly what I said in answering your question. Your spin on what I said does not interest me.

What is the exact tie between tolls and federal income taxes?

[kevinm]

Originally Posted by neko_mimi

I'm not saying I agree with imposing more taxes. But if we're going to tax businesses, churches should be treated the same. A church is nothing but a business, despite the fact that they pretend otherwise.

What are they selling for a profit???

[Ferd]

Again, how does taxing anying add to the economy?


we have this wild eyed conversation going on, driven by bigotry yet no one has even come close to explaining how government taking adds to the economy.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

What is the exact tie between tolls and federal income taxes?

That has nothing to do with what you were talking about. Replace one with the other and you are still paying money out. Many of the bridges you now pay tolls on were partially funded with federal dollars. This is how many roads work. Without that you simply pay higher tolls.

Yep that is a simplistic answer to the question but it's probably best to stick with that.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Again, how does taxing anying add to the economy?


we have this wild eyed conversation going on, driven by bigotry yet no one has even come close to explaining how government taking adds to the economy.

O.K.

We spend trillions we do not have. We waste trillions on wars for no justifiable reason. If we collected no taxes, no country in the world would accept our money and the economy becomes Venezuela.

Now you can argue that we can do away with the wars, and I agree. Wall Street isn't going to be pleased but I believe in the long run it will be worth it, BUT we are not doing that.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by pknopp

That has nothing to do with what you were talking about. Replace one with the other and you are still paying money out. Many of the bridges you now pay tolls on were partially funded with federal dollars. This is how many roads work. Without that you simply pay higher tolls.

Yep that is a simplistic answer to the question but it's probably best to stick with that.

How does replacing the current federal tax system with the FAIR tax system affect tolls?