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Old 09-07-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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If you think Flake and McCain are RINOs.... that only says one thing about you: you're too far to the right. Ever tried looking in the mirror sometimes?
You mean I follow the law?
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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Yeah right



All the Dems saying Kasich was a reasonable candidate would he smears him
Asa racist and sexist if he became the nominee
Oh you know it
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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Kasich is nothing but a big crybaby, sore loser. The kind of kid in the neighborhood who goes off to tattle-tale to mommy is he loses a game.
I can definitely see the appeal to liberals. They are fans of the half-man types.
Exactly.




Urban Dictionary: beta male
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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1. Everyone I knew who voted for Trump was extremely engaged in the primaries and then the general. Everyone. More politically engaged than I had ever seen before. They knew his background. They knew his strengths and weaknesses. Those fools who keep calling Trump-voters "cultists" either naively or deliberately do not understand that most Trump voters went in with eyes wide open. We knew exactly what we were getting. We knew exactly who and what we were voting for - and we knew exactly who and what we were voting against.

2. Nobody I knew (including me) voted for Trump because he had an (R) behind his name. Nobody.

#2 is particularly important, because if Democrats are hoping to make any kind of resurgence from their losses of the past 8 years they have to understand this point. Trump was running on a Republican ticket. I did not vote for him BECAUSE he was a Republican and pointing to Trumps' lack of "conservative cred" doesn't mean spit to any Trump voter. Find another strategy because that one doesn't do it (and WILL not do it in either 2018 or 2020)

Good point
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:51 PM
 
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Anecdotal evidence is nice but fact.

A good number of people voted for Trump because he was not Clinton. Many of those voters got duped are are now finding out that just like in his businesses, he is not the "deal maker" he claims to be. And more than a good number of those that don't follow politics or have read about Trump in the NY papers over the last 30 years did not know what he stood for and still do not know.

Trump won the presidency by 78,000 votes spread out over Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Absent of that, he would have lost. Trump core voters are about 33% of those who vote. That's not enough to win next time out, yet Trump does nothing to expand his reach beyond that base.
Ummmm he won by 400,000 votes in Ohio alone
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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Your understanding of conservatives can be charitably characterized as 'cartoonish'.
Well, then, why not list a few real ones? And what they stand for that progressives and liberals do not?

Should be easy off the top of your head.

Was GW Bush a conservative? Nixon? Reagan?
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Sick to death of the alpha male thing. Lots of words begin with A, and alpha is only one of them.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Kasich blasts Trump, invites immigrant ‘dreamers’ to Ohio | fox8.com


This RINO, along with Flake McCain Ryan Graham and the rest of them need to go away and crawl into a hole
I'm from Ohio. Kasich is like a bad cold that just refuses to go away.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Kasich blasts Trump, invites immigrant ‘dreamers’ to Ohio | fox8.com


This RINO, along with Flake McCain Ryan Graham and the rest of them need to go away and crawl into a hole
What makes Kasich a RINO?

Edit: What makes any of them RINOs?

Last edited by Valhallian; 09-07-2017 at 06:38 PM..
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Kasich is anti-choice (against abortion), does not have a problem with illegal immigration, and is in favor of expanding Medicaid; and although I disagree with him on[i] all/I] those issues, in my view, he is neither a real Republican nor a RINO, but some kind of unusual mix.

But, all that being said, I would have voted for him over ANY of the other POTUS candidates because of all of them, I think he was the most moderate and the most sincere and honest; I don't think that any of those last two traits have been in any POTUS since Carter.

P.S. On Edit: However, if it IS true that he is anti-environment (which I doubt, as he is, I believe, a "true" family man, which would lead me to conclude that he does care about the future), that might change my mind about voting for him.
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