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]The email scandal turned out to be nothing.[/b] On the other hand, Trump and Russia could be the next Watergate.
Yes,to people with their head in the ground it was nothing. Federal records were destroyed, TS information was sent transferred in an unsecured manner by the person in question. Nothing became of it due to the Clintons history of leaving dead bodies of people that get in their way which gave them the cooperation of James Comey and Loretta Lynch and/or the corruption history of the Democrats in this matter.
Trump/Russia could be the next Watergate, it also could not be the next Watergate as no credible evidence has been presented to this point despite attempts by Mr Schiff.
Just because a bunch of cons don't like ACA, they call it dictatorial. It wasn't; it was passed through Congress according to the laws of our land.
Obama's executive orders may not have been all great, but they were legal and in no way historically unprecedented for Republican or Democrat presidents. Trump uses them too.
You may not have liked his policies, but Obama never did anything "dictatorial.". That's just conservatives getting their panties in a bunch and acting like drama queens.
BUT... Trump has acted in some specific ways that are more concerning.. ways that are not (so far) illegal but that undermine the intent of our Constitution.. ways that Obama and other former R and D presidents have not:
1. Engaging in a concerted effort to undermine a free press capable of criticizing the President.
2. Retaining his businesses stakes and conflating his private profit-making interests with his public policy interests as President.
3. Engaging in gross nepotism - appointing his unqualified family members to his cabinet because of blood relation.
4. Undermining the ability of the Justice Department to act independently by firing the FBI director for political motive and demanding loyalty in private from top prosecutors.
Conservatives talk a big game on Constitution and law and order, as if they were moral authorities on it, but the fact that they are let these concerning behaviors slide tells you they are not serious about protecting the Constitution; it's just self-serving spin.
In the end, I have confidence in our free press, our Congress, and our Judicial Branch to check Trump's power just like previous Presidents so that our Republic can move past him one day.
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Translation ..you got nothing.
1. I voted to send Trump to DC to confront the lying, corrupt media.
2. You didn't know Trump was rich?
3. Boo-hoooo.....
4. Trump (any president) can fire the FBI director any time he likes and for any reason whatsoever.
As for Comey, he has his own misconduct to worry about.
Yes,to people with their head in the ground it was nothing. Federal records were destroyed, TS information was sent transferred in an unsecured manner by the person in question. Nothing became of it due to the Clintons history of leaving dead bodies of people that get in their way which gave them the cooperation of James Comey and Loretta Lynch and/or the corruption history of the Democrats in this matter.
Trump/Russia could be the next Watergate, it also could not be the next Watergate as no credible evidence has been presented to this point despite attempts by Mr Schiff.
I'm sorry but we are not privy to these investigations until they are done.
I'm sorry but we are not privy to these investigations until they are done.
That is true, however to this point there is nothing--if there is something itll come out at the appropriate time.
or if there even is an investigation which they are not supposed to confirm or deny even exists
But is he rich? Why would Trump, who says that he is a billionaire, become part of the bait & switch scam known as Trump university?
Why won't Trump release his tax details? You know, the tax details he said he was going to release as soon as he became president. Romney was right, Trump's promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump university.
But is he rich? Why would Trump, who says that he is a billionaire, become part of the bait & switch scam known as Trump university?
Why won't Trump release his tax details? You know, the tax details he said he was going to release as soon as he became president. Romney was right, Trump's promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump university.
Ah a tax return deflection
You mean the ones he said he would -not- release while they are under audit. I think Rachel Maddow can help you out.
Just because a bunch of cons don't like ACA, they call it dictatorial. It wasn't; it was passed through Congress according to the laws of our land.
Obama's executive orders may not have been all great, but they were legal and in no way historically unprecedented for Republican or Democrat presidents. Trump uses them too.
You may not have liked his policies, but Obama never did anything "dictatorial.". That's just conservatives getting their panties in a bunch and acting like drama queens.
BUT... Trump has acted in some specific ways that are more concerning.. ways that are not (so far) illegal but that undermine the intent of our Constitution.. ways that Obama and other former R and D presidents have not:
1. Engaging in a concerted effort to undermine a free press capable of criticizing the President.
2. Retaining his businesses stakes and conflating his private profit-making interests with his public policy interests as President.
3. Engaging in gross nepotism - appointing his unqualified family members to his cabinet because of blood relation.
4. Undermining the ability of the Justice Department to act independently by firing the FBI director for political motive and demanding loyalty in private from top prosecutors.
Conservatives talk a big game on Constitution and law and order, as if they were moral authorities on it, but the fact that they are let these concerning behaviors slide tells you they are not serious about protecting the Constitution; it's just self-serving spin.
In the end, I have confidence in our free press, our Congress, and our Judicial Branch to check Trump's power just like previous Presidents so that our Republic can move past him one day.
That's what comes from electing a rank beginner to the nation's top job.
It was like pulling a guy in off the street and making him the head of General Electric.
Trump didn't know a damn thing about how governing works. He's now on a learning curve, but his profound ignorance doesn't allow him any room for mistakes like most on the job training does.
Congress has its own ways of teaching the beginners what they need to know. A freshman in either house has a period of orientation, where the procedures, floor rules, committee rules, hierarchy, and all the rest of the job are explained and practiced. This allows a rank beginner who has never held office before some time to become acquainted with the new job and what it entails, what its limits are, where its powers lie, and the responsibilities of the office.
The Presidency has none of that. There have only been a very few who became President who came from no political background at all, but all the others had some kind of experience in government until Trump. Almost all the other Presidents began at the state level, worked up to Congress, and then came from either Congress or a Governorship to the White House.
But even if that guy off the street was able to run General Electric successfully, that still wouldn't help him with the Presidency.
Government doesn't run like any business. Because it is not business. It's Government.
Government sets the rules all business conducted in the United States must obey. It sets the standards of al trade and creates all laws that pertain to trade.
Government doesn't make money, it creates the currency, determines the currency's value, protects it, issues it, and controls it. Business only uses what the government alone makes. With no government, there would be no money.
And the Treasury is only part of the government's business. Other parts are protecting our citizenry from foreign aggression and disease, education for all, free access to all states in the nation, controlling our airspace, our coastal waters, conducting international relations, creating official documentation of our citizens, and many other things no business does or can do.
And it's all done by one means; writing new laws, modifying old laws, eliminating obsolete laws, creating laws that allow regulation, oversight, enforcement, laws that define inheritance, laws that keep our society from falling into anarchy, a condition where there are no laws but those of the jungle.
That's why lawyers go into politics. The step from one job to the other is a short one. But here, anyone can run, and anyone can win. The beginners will make big mistakes. Those with some relative experience will not make such big mistakes because they already know some stuff about their new job.
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I'm sorry but we are not privy to these investigations until they are done.
With all of the many, many, many leaks, allegedly by those in the know, one would think that there would be at least a tidbit of information that possibly ties Trump to wrong doing, if there is any wrong doing that is . but nope, not a thing. Nothing before Mueller, and, apparently the House is also investigating, nothing from them either. Ahh, so many leaks by 'unknown sources', yet, no real info.
It also appears that Mueller is still actively trying to find evidence of wrong doing by Trump in firing Comey .. at this stage, it very well could be that Mueller has nothing and Trump's firing of Comey was not obstruction.
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Originally Posted by ambient
So you just want to hear thing that are friendly to Trump?
How about truth.
CNN did state that the Trump-Russia thing was b.s., that they were only doing it for ratings. They even snickered at the thought of 'journalistic integrity'. Yeah, not biased at all, hmm?
You do know that CNN, MSNBC, Wapo, .. basically, the 'corporate' media is not the only 'free press' in this country, don't you?
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