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Old 09-11-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Agreed. This hospital violated this man's privacy in such an egregious and outrageous fashion that 2.5 million is barely enough.
How many years should the clerk that made the mistake get?
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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How many years should the clerk that made the mistake get?
Pretty much every post you've made has been incorrect from a legal standpoint. You should stop now.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How many years should the clerk that made the mistake get?
Years? The victim should split the money with the clerk. After expenses.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Pretty much every post you've made has been incorrect from a legal standpoint. You should stop now.
So, when someone does something so egregious as to destroy another person's life, you don't think we should have laws that place them in prison?

If we could go back in time and get jail time included in HIPAA laws, how many years should this clerk receive?

I assume yo believe this clerk should be held 59#Â¥% accountable for the civil suit, correct?
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So, when someone does something so egregious as to destroy another person's life, you don't think we should have laws that place them in prison?

If we could go back in time and get jail time included in HIPAA laws, how many years should this clerk receive?

I assume yo believe this clerk should be held 59#Â¥% accountable for the civil suit, correct?
Nope, that's another thing you were wrong about. The clerk was an agent of their employer, that's why it's the hospital being sued, not the individual employee.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Nope, that's another thing you were wrong about. The clerk was an agent of their employer, that's why it's the hospital being sued, not the individual employee.
But you think the clerk should also be held accountable, right?
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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So, you feel it's possible to train an employee to NEVER make a clerical mistake?
When the matter is as important as communicating HIV status the system should have enough checks and balances that mistakes do not occur. Something as simple as a second set of eyes on it before the send button is hit perhaps. Or a call to the patient verifying where it is being sent. Clerical people can and do make mistakes but for important stuff you have a system that helps catch them before those mistakes get implemented.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: California
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There is a simple way to avoid a $2.5M charge...

...Take patient privacy more seriously.

I often see friends of my wife in the hospital. I dont tell my wife. Occasionally they will tell me to say hi to her for them, and in that case I always clearly ask them if I have their permission to tell her I saw them, so there is no mistake.
$2.5M, that is just insane, If a person is okay with this they should not complain about the cost of health care.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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When the matter is as important as communicating HIV status the system should have enough checks and balances that mistakes do not occur. Something as simple as a second set of eyes on it before the send button is hit perhaps. Or a call to the patient verifying where it is being sent. Clerical people can and do make mistakes but for important stuff you have a system that helps catch them before those mistakes get implemented.
You want to see medical expenses shoot up even more when you have all clerical work double checked?

Should I also assume you want all hospitals to fire any employee making any form of mistake on the spot? Let's say an employee transcribes a bill for $234.55 to $243.55, that employee should be immediately terminated, correct? If they allow such sloppiness, it could end up with a clerk putting in the wrong fax number.

How about we give patients the choice between picking up their records themselves?
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