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Old 09-11-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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this is nothing more than another thinly disguised anti black thread.

and the funny thing is , it is the same posters who start these threads and then pretend they are just trying to have a conversation when what they are really trying to do is to paint black people as failures and scary.
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The war on drugs didn't ramp up until we ended Prohibition.
This is true.

Wikipedia:

The Federal Bureau of Narcotics was established in the United States Department of the Treasury by an act of June 14, 1930 (46 Stat. 585).[20] In 1933, the federal prohibition for alcohol was repealed by passage of the 21st Amendment. In 1935, President Franklin D. Roosevelt publicly supported the adoption of the Uniform State Narcotic Drug Act. The New York Times used the headline "Roosevelt Asks Narcotic War Aid".
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Let me tell you a secret as a person who has been involved in public education over four decades, no other variable impacts the educational outcome of a student more than their parents. Nothing else even comes close. But, it is much easier to try to "fix" schools than to discuss the elephant in the room - children who live with two biological committed parents, who care about their child's education, will almost always be successful in school, the problem is it's a crapshoot with everyone else. This is regardless of the parent's race, education level, or socioeconomic status. This carries over into every aspect of the child's life. Since we as a society do not seem to be inclined to address unwed parenthood it is not going to get fixed.
^^^^^I was reminded of this when an on scene reporter was interviewing a fleeing woman with her several month old baby from Hurricane Irma. She said she was devastated because her, and her "BOYFRIEND" were supposed to get married at the end of the month. Well why weren't they married BEFORE they had children, or at lease while she was pregnant? So many couples are doing this backwards today, or not at all. She was White, by the way.
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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this is nothing more than another thinly disguised anti black thread.
No, it's not at all. Read the OP. You may think that we don't have a problem with one parent households but most of us recognize that it is a huge problem.

Try to overcome your hatred and just watch the video. People of ALL colors have a huge problem with missing dads. Just because it's a bigger problem with black people than white people doesn't change anything. It's a USA problem, not a black problem.

Open your mind for a change.
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:03 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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interesting that the poverty rate has stayed the same even though the number of unwed women giving birth has risen dramatically according to the video.

to go from 34 percent poverty to 17 percent shows that welfare and other programs have worked.
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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The left defines compassion by how many people are dependent on government programs

The right defines compassion by how many people no longer need them


It's supposed to be temporary help, not a lifetime of support for multiple generations. Unless, of course, there's serious disability, but that's another debatable subject.

It all boils down to poor personal choices. Repeat the mistakes of the past, or learn from them and do better.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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The left defines compassion by how many people are dependent on government programs

The right defines compassion by how many people no longer need them
This is a gross misrepresentation. I know you think you are being cute here, but throwing people off the programs is not the same as progress. Often times it is tragically cruel.


The goal is to help the needy. No one wants larger welfare programs, the overriding ideal is to have a society which does not need them. If you are on board with that I have a some suggestions ...

We could start by raising the minimum wage, for example ... and instituting single payer health care.

Those two ideas right there would probably lift millions out of poverty.

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It's supposed to be temporary help, not a lifetime of support for multiple generations.
Have you forgotten that there are lifetime caps to welfare in place? You are reacting to a myth of your own making.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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the obsession is real around here
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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This is a gross misrepresentation. I know you think you are being cute here, but throwing people off the programs is not the same as progress. Often times it is tragically cruel.


The goal is to help the needy. No one wants larger welfare programs, the overriding ideal is to have a society which does not need them. If you are on board with that I have a some suggestions ...

We could start by raising the minimum wage, for example ... and instituting single payer health care.

Those two ideas right there would probably lift millions out of poverty.

Have you forgotten that there are lifetime caps to welfare in place? You are reacting to a myth of your own making.
There is a big difference in taking something away from someone and seeing that they no longer need it. You need to read the lines you are responding to again.
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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This is a gross misrepresentation. I know you think you are being cute here, but throwing people off the programs is not the same as progress. Often times it is tragically cruel.


The goal is to help the needy. No one wants larger welfare programs, the overriding ideal is to have a society which does not need them. If you are on board with that I have a some suggestions ...

We could start by raising the minimum wage, for example ... and instituting single payer health care.

Those two ideas right there would probably lift millions out of poverty.

Have you forgotten that there are lifetime caps to welfare in place? You are reacting to a myth of your own making.
Raising the minimum wage results in a harder time finding work, that has been proven multiple times by economists Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams over many years. I have a personal example of it as well. Single payer is everyone on Medicare and taxes go up, making it harder for employers and employees to pay it. Gov't saves the day again. Yeah, sure.

I have never heard of lifetime caps on welfare. I know of people who were on welfare and their children went on it, and now their children went on it. Perhaps they go back and forth between different programs, that I do not know. Medicaid clinics are their healthcare plan. What else shall we provide to everyone?
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