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Where are they? Why did they spring up so fast and disappear w/o a trace from mainstream media? I haven't heard anything about that group in a long while.
What went wrong with this group?
Like a festering sore in someone with a healthy immune system, it healed and went away. Such things flourish only in a weak government and then they kill it. Are you complaining about its disappearance?
Where are they? Why did they spring up so fast and disappear w/o a trace from mainstream media? I haven't heard anything about that group in a long while.
What went wrong with this group?
The sad truth....is...unfortunately...now that an African American is not POTUS, they have calmed down greatly. Sure - the "freedom" caucus in congress gives it lip service, but Trump and the mainstream GOP want to BORROW MORE...UNLIMITED. That's what Trump has said so I am not putting words in his mouth.
He doesn't believe in fiscal conservatism because he has always privatized his gain and socialized (taxpayers, banks, bondholder, victims, contractors, etc.) his losses.
It doesn't take much imagination to consider what the Tea Party would have done if Obama supported doing away altogether with the debt limit. Proof Positive...
Oh, is that a fact? Interesting. Collectively, I've not heard a thing about where they stand on the other matters like DACA and The Travel Ban. Wonder why that is?
Because the Tea Party was mostly incoherent. They were angry about lots of things, but had no answers and could present no alternatives. They never were able to form a united group, were never able to coordinate with each other, and the anger manifested itself in many different ways and over many different things.
For a rump organization to work, the goals have to be shared by all, must be simple, and must be achievable. The groups that always forced change to happen only had 1 or 2 goals at the most they wanted. Not a dozen or more.
Change comes very slowly.
Female suffrage- giving the women of our nation the right to vote- took 50 years to accomplish nationwide as a single issue. This means the grand-daughters and great-grand-daughters of the original group had to carry on what their mothers began. It was one single issue. But a very big one.
The Tea Party had at least 6 big issues. Some of them pertained only to one or two elections, while others would need as much perseverance as suffrage required to get done. Some were regional issues that were not shared in other regions.
Reform has to have some defined goals that can be achieved. Without those goals, a plan can never be formed.
In the case of the Tea Party, the complete lack of goals combined with the inability to take their movement to the streets effectively. It's hard to mount an impressive demonstration when everyone who turns out brings a lawn chair with them to sit in. Demonstrations only work when demonstrators are on their feet moving, in action.
Suffrage began with a relatively large group of women. Some were very wealthy, and they committed their money to the cause. The money allowed them to form a central organization. A central organization allows branches to form wherever needed, central support, a central clear message, and common definable goals for all.
The Tea Party never had any of that. Still doesn't. It never attracted lots of folks who were willing to form groups, either, and angry self-isloated loners don't make for good organizers.
But they were more effective in some states when it came to voting turnout, and unfortunately, the folks they sent to Washington were just like them; lots of unfocused anger, but no strong definable goals and no plans for effective change.
An elected Tea Partier is not different than any other incumbent. Once in office, it's a job that's actually pretty easy to do, and though the pay is only so-so, the residuals and the perks are wonderful. So in the end, they are all RINOs.
Except when they're back on the campaign trail, seeking re-election. Then, they revert back to teabagging, just long enough to get re-elected.
I'd say the vast majority of Tea Partiers become Trump voters and supporters...based on these basic stats.....
1. When GW left office as a complete and utter failure, he was supported by 26% of the country (STILL)...pretty amazing, and an indication that this particular 26% will stick with "the right" almost no matter what.
2. The Tea Party started within 60 days of GW Bush leaving office. At the peak, about 30% of the USA (in polling) called themselves quite aligned with the Tea Party (to one degree or another).
3. The "base" of Trump voters is about 30% of Americans today.
These obviously can't be totally separate percentages - a LOT of overlap. Right Wing Authoritarianism was somewhat proven as a tendency by the GW Admin - that is, these people will always elect someone they perceive as a "strong leader" and damn the torpedoes (or the patriot act, or the recessions, or the massive debt, etc.)....
So I'd say most in the Tea Party as just Trumpies in one way or another. They have gotten absolutely nothing done - couldn't even do the Grand Bargain. But they made a lot of noise.
In a sense they were superior to the current right - which now wants to destroy the government and country and don't even stand for the basics of paying down debt, etc.
Where are they? Why did they spring up so fast and disappear w/o a trace from mainstream media? I haven't heard anything about that group in a long while.
What went wrong with this group?
Don't forget the Tea Party is a fake construct that was bought and paid for by a certain group of very rich people. it could be considered a template for trump.
tea party folk will deny it, because most are wholly ignorant of this FACT. they still think it was a grassroots organization. The true is, the tea party was created to funnel the existing anger and disappointment. It was intended to seize enough control of the Republican party to influence it and force it to take a pro corp anti american citizen stance. and they used the exact same trick murdoch did. he wanted an unfair and unbalanced news station that targeted a very clear market. so he called it fair and balanced. It is an old trick but extremely effective.
Where are they? Why did they spring up so fast and disappear w/o a trace from mainstream media? I haven't heard anything about that group in a long while.
What went wrong with this group?
As I would have told them for significantly less than the cost of a good publicist, doing absolutely nothing is not beneficial to one's reputation.
By and large, the "tea party" discovered that age-old truth: when you enter the machine, you become the machine. They are the legislation-passing, government-running people they campaigned against.
Where are they? Why did they spring up so fast and disappear w/o a trace from mainstream media? I haven't heard anything about that group in a long while.
What went wrong with this group?
Obama is gone. So, it seems are the Tea Party.
They only arose to block Obama. Not because they are racist, of course. Because Obama was a communist born in Kenya who wanted to deprive them of their guns.
Don't tread on them. Unless you are Donald Trump--then it's ok. Tread all you want. In fact it's ok for him to shoot people on 5th Ave. The Tea Party is not opposed to that.
As I would have told them for significantly less than the cost of a good publicist, doing absolutely nothing is not beneficial to one's reputation.
By and large, the "tea party" discovered that age-old truth: when you enter the machine, you become the machine. They are the legislation-passing, government-running people they campaigned against.
But the strange thing is - it sound like everyone who has posted here isn't part of tha 40+ % of Republicans who identified with them???
Is everyone going to deny Trump also in the future?
Doesn't make sense.
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