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Old 09-16-2017, 01:55 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Originally Posted by don1945
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I like your spin, Waldo, but your boy is in the driver's seat now, and has been for the past 8 months. Kim has launched more missiles in that time than ever during Obama's tenure. Trump had all this big talk, but Kim is thumbing his nose at him at every turn.
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The question is, what is YOUR boy going to do ?
Your "man crush" is nothing but hot air!
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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He's been wrong before but he's also been correct too.....and is a long time insider. He predicted Trump would be President before Ann Coulter. And not only did he make the prediction, but he was perhaps ten-times more adamant that the prediction would come true.

We're going to find out fairly soon if his current prognosis plays out.

All that's gonna happen is that Putin, China and Kim will continue to play tRump like a fiddle.

This stuff didn't happen when Obama or Dubya or Clinton were in office.

Because those tyrants understood that they were dealing with real presidents who had stable personalities and broad support.

Now they have a weak immature clown they can irritate at will. So they do. Repeatedly.

Enjoy the spectacle.

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Old 09-16-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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That's all well and good. As I admitted, Japan's military IS very capable. However, the Chinese military is growing and modernizing too - much faster than the Japanese military is.
So what exactly has Japan actually DONE to keep the Pacific from becoming a "Chinese Lake"?
China keeps expanding its influence throughout the Pacific and building artificial islands to serve as air bases. I've not seen Japan do anything about it - and they likely won't.

Report: China's Military Capabilities Are Growing at a Shocking Speed | The National Interest Blog

Ken
China has done a lot in the last few decades. Its not really visible because where the most progress has been is in infrastructure and access to resources. What China needs to create the ability to project power world wide is in place and now its just a matter of time before we start seeing China spreading throughout the world.
Whats scary is how the US ill react. Violence and aggression is the normal go to reaction it seems.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Imagine is these missiles were coming out of Iran and Obama was president! Imagine if Obama handled this the way Trump is, doing nothing!
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Kim's desperate to hold on to power for himself and his inner circle. The sanctions will go into effect and put North Korea into an economic strangle hold. I think that the real problem is that he may just decide to lob a few non nuclear missiles into Japan and South Korea and will present a demand for an economic aid package. Since this is not a direct nuclear threat to the US will we go to war?
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Kim's desperate to hold on to power for himself and his inner circle. The sanctions will go into effect and put North Korea into an economic strangle hold.
As always, China and Russia will keep NK supplied with essentials and we won't do anything about it.
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I think that the real problem is that he may just decide to lob a few non nuclear missiles into Japan and South Korea and will present a demand for an economic aid package. Since this is not a direct nuclear threat to the US will we go to war?
There won't be any war.

Kim will continue to prod tRump while Putin and Xi laugh behind the scenes.

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Old 09-16-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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I am pretty worried. I thought the US position is that we would never tolerate someone with nukes - never mind someone with nukes making threats. But here we are... tolerating it.

I guess we just beat up on countries that use goats as transport.
Well, we don't have a track record of beating up on THEM very effectively...what was the last war in a country that used goats as transports that we actually won?
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Well, we don't have a track record of beating up on THEM very effectively...what was the last war in a country that used goats as transports that we actually won?
Agreed. And now War Hawks are saying... lets to into NK? Please. We haven't been able to shoot straight since 1945.
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
That's all well and good. As I admitted, Japan's military IS very capable. However, the Chinese military is growing and modernizing too - much faster than the Japanese military is.
So what exactly has Japan actually DONE to keep the Pacific from becoming a "Chinese Lake"?
China keeps expanding its influence throughout the Pacific and building artificial islands to serve as air bases. I've not seen Japan do anything about it - and they likely won't.

Report: China's Military Capabilities Are Growing at a Shocking Speed | The National Interest Blog

Ken



One example..............


Japan eyes weapons sales to Southeast Asia to counter Chinese clout | Asia | DW | 14.06.2017
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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China has done a lot in the last few decades. Its not really visible because where the most progress has been is in infrastructure and access to resources. What China needs to create the ability to project power world wide is in place and now its just a matter of time before we start seeing China spreading throughout the world.
Whats scary is how the US ill react. Violence and aggression is the normal go to reaction it seems.


One development taking shape that is not just a military response. The united states is a force behind this also.........
China and India's Battle for Influence in Asia | HuffPost
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